Endgame gearing in FFXIV

[vanaii]

"People will come up with a META" never was and should never be an argument. Every game with any degree of player choice has a META. The industry would be a complete bore if every company had this fear the average XIV player has of flexible setups or character choice.

True, but the other side of the coin is an entrenched meta needs to be broken. The old XIV meta was garbage for players that weren't running a meta job. See also: Machinist.

[Rolder50]

True, but the other side of the coin is an entrenched meta needs to be broken. The old XIV meta was garbage for players that weren't running a meta job. See also: Machinist.

The XIV setup is worse for this because, since there's no choice in anything and no utility of note, damage is the only thing that matters. Take, for example, Classic WoW currently. Tons of non-meta, non-chart topping classes are taken because they offer unique buffs and perks to the raid, encouraging a diverse setup.

[vanaii]

The XIV setup is worse for this because, since there's no choice in anything and no utility of note, damage is the only thing that matters. Take, for example, Classic WoW currently. Tons of non-meta, non-chart topping classes are taken because they offer unique buffs and perks to the raid, encouraging a diverse setup.

While I'd love to see more variety in jobs, the flipside of the WoW system is multistacking powerful classes. We at least have the safety net of the "one player per job" bonus.

I'm saying it's dumb to stack half of your raid with one class, just as it's dumb for the community to settle on one specific setup for everything or don't bother opening pf. Both metas need to be broken.

[Rolder50]

While I'd love to see more variety in jobs, the flipside of the WoW system is multistacking powerful classes. We at least have the safety net of the "one player per job" bonus.

I'm saying it's dumb to stack half of your raid with one class, just as it's dumb for the community to settle on one specific setup for everything or don't bother opening pf. Both metas need to be broken.

Well, you could encourage job diversity while still retaining the LB penalty for doubling up on jobs. They ain't mutually exclusive.

[vanaii]

Well, you could encourage job diversity while still retaining the LB penalty for doubling up on jobs. They ain't mutually exclusive.

True. What I'm saying is if a meta forms, break it before it lasts multiple expansions. Stormblood was dumb.

[Elizasylen]

True, but the other side of the coin is an entrenched meta needs to be broken. The old XIV meta was garbage for players that weren't running a meta job. See also: Machinist.

I hope 6.28 will help remedy this issue