Ew relic quest

[RyuDragnier]

I miss when relics were actually relics...relic now is just glamour anyway tbh

Because it became BiS for only 1 month in current content back in ARR and the raiding community RAGED about that. Now it'll never be equal during current content.

[magitekLuna]

I cannot in any way understand what they were thinking merging a relic quest with Manderville.

I don't like Manderville and I don't care about its quest and even if yeah I can pass all the cs its still something that I didn't care for. its not a character that I like and I don't want to do his whole story for a relic that DIDN'T need that. Look at Eureka and Bozja it was fighting and it was hard to grind and for Bozja it was just even hard to get to it. You needed to really fight for it to cooperate with players and that's for me the best side content I did in the game

On the other side, imagine players that just wanted to get a good Manderville quest for EW and now they have to grind a relic for that for no good reason.for real it objectively was not a good idea, what do you guys thing

what was they thinking?? its easy. they want to create a situation where lots of people hate it and they don't need to make more if it. the quest line was a pure joy a 11/10. best quest line in game to date. stupid to perfection. but its have no place to be part of the relic. so much people just skipped it and missed out on the best quest ever. over all i think yoshi lose his frip on reality in 6.x , not one thing you can say was well made . some part in them over all was but not the hole thing.

[Striker44]

what was they thinking?? its easy. they want to create a situation where lots of people hate it and they don't need to make more if it. the quest line was a pure joy a 11/10. best quest line in game to date. stupid to perfection. but its have no place to be part of the relic. so much people just skipped it and missed out on the best quest ever. over all i think yoshi lose his frip on reality in 6.x , not one thing you can say was well made . some part in them over all was but not the hole thing.

Personally, I would say for me, practically all of it has been "well made", though I haven't tried IS or Criterion/Variant yet. I thoroughly enjoyed the MSQ, loved the music, loved the world-building from the Role Quests (heck, even my least-favorite role of Physical DPS had me getting into the story for it), I've been smiling at all the FF4 references finally making their way into FFXIV, and the list goes on.

What I don't understand is why people seem to be saying there didn't need to be a Manderville requirement for the relic solely because the link them was so minor in Step One...there is still much more to go with the relics, and plenty of opportunities to see them much more deeply tied to the Manderville quests, which would make the link much more apparent.

[Mikey_R]

What I don't understand is why people seem to be saying there didn't need to be a Manderville requirement for the relic solely because the link them was so minor in Step One...there is still much more to go with the relics, and plenty of opportunities to see them much more deeply tied to the Manderville quests, which would make the link much more apparent.

I think it is to do with the fact that the only real link is you happen to find Godbert on the moon, who happens to stumble across the material he was looking for. You could have, in theory, had a quest that had you investigating some strange happenings on the moon, and it was Godbert looking for the ore.

I'm not complaining though, I enjoy the Manderville quests and doing relic weapons, so it is a double win for me.

[Striker44]

I think it is to do with the fact that the only real link is you happen to find Godbert on the moon, who happens to stumble across the material he was looking for. You could have, in theory, had a quest that had you investigating some strange happenings on the moon, and it was Godbert looking for the ore.

I'm not complaining though, I enjoy the Manderville quests and doing relic weapons, so it is a double win for me.

Yeah, my confusion isn't so much that the link so far is very minor, but rather that every relic series to date continually and significantly expands on the story with each new step, so just because the connection is small right now says nothing about what the connection might be in the coming steps (and it would seem weird to suddenly require something like the Manderville questline in order to progress, say, Step 2 or Step 3).

[Deveryn]

What folks forget or don't understand is how wildly popular that series actually is. They took a break from it in Shadowbringers and people were pretty sad about it. If you actually go through the story, you'll see how much work they actually put into it. That's one of the reasons they left it out of ShB. They decided if they were going to make more Hildi, they would have it be a part of something important.

[TaleraRistain]

Everything you say about Hildibrand can be said about Eureka and Bozja. Some people hate it. You do it if you want the item. Or you skip it and don't contribute to their completion numbers.

[Midareyukki]

Everything you say about Hildibrand can be said about Eureka and Bozja. Some people hate it. You do it if you want the item. Or you skip it and don't contribute to their completion numbers.

You technically do need to complete Castrum Lacus Litore at least to complete the Bozja weapons. As for Eureka, you need to get to a certain level to get the drops from each boss, meaning you need to be at least level 59 before getting Provenance Watcher's scales (unless... can you buy those with the fate items now?) So you'd be contributing to some numbers anyway.

Here's hoping they don't do that to the Manderville Quests and you only need to unlock it through those quests.
Otherwise we'll never hear the end of it...

[Vahlnir]

You technically do need to complete Castrum Lacus Litore at least to complete the Bozja weapons. As for Eureka, you need to get to a certain level to get the drops from each boss, meaning you need to be at least level 59 before getting Provenance Watcher's scales (unless... can you buy those with the fate items now?) So you'd be contributing to some numbers anyway.

Here's hoping they don't do that to the Manderville Quests and you only need to unlock it through those quests.
Otherwise we'll never hear the end of it...

I went through Eureka again not long after EW launch for the SMN relic. I can confirm that Crystalline Scales still can't be purchased from a vendor. People still need to spawn and fight that boss for that item.

[Midareyukki]

I went through Eureka again not long after EW launch for the SMN relic. I can confirm that Crystalline Scales still can't be purchased from a vendor. People still need to spawn and fight that boss for that item.