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    Sebazy's Avatar
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    Sebazy Spiritwalker
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    Ragnarok
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Calysto View Post
    What was wrong with HW/SB healers ? they were different jobs and SE had to balance them. The guy that did that probably left and nobody wanted to do it.
    We've had 1 person leave the job design team at some point around 2019/2020 (Tsuyoshi Yokozawa) who was replaced to keep the team at 4. Outside of that the team is still essential the same 4 people we've had since ARR.

    I'm pretty firmly of the opinion that what enthusiasm this team had for the healer role is long gone. Thus we get little but cut and paste abilities with very little effort made to synergise or reinvigorate our core gameplay loops. Name some completely new and original healer specific ability that truly hit the ground running without requiring multiple painful reworks to shape it into something decent? It's surprisingly tricky really... Earthy Star? Macro Cosmos? Expedient? Excog?

    There are plenty of abilities like Lilybell that come close as well, but for these almost the entirety of the rest of our kit either feels like a cut and paste of something prior (With some being particularly egregious such as Temperance) or launched in a laughably dismal state and required an extended game of hot and cold before they got to the point of being somewhere between usable and decent.

    This stark lack of attention to detail and polish across the role has been a running theme since forever really. It should have been painfully obvious that 3.0 AST wasn't going to work in Gordias. It should have been painfully obvious that 4.0 SCH wasn't going to work in anything outside of the solo MSQ and so forth.

    SE keep making these mistakes and promptly refusing to learn from them or take steps to ensure a better standard. IMO the blame lies squarely at Yoshida's feet by now. He has no time for healers and it's shown for years in his interviews. I'm confident that healers will remain in this weird state until he stands down as lead.
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    Last edited by Sebazy; 10-19-2022 at 09:39 PM. Reason: Grammar is hard pls =(
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    VentVanitas's Avatar
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    Seiko Hanamura
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    Kujata
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    SE keep making these mistakes and promptly refusing to learn from them or take steps to ensure a better standard. IMO the blame lies squarely at Yoshida's feet by now. He has no time for healers and it's shown for years in his interviews. I'm confident that healers will remain in this weird state until he stands down as lead.
    I've never seen developers that are simultaneously too unaware of glaring issues yet too eager to overcorrect something that isn't broken or particularly problematic. They waste a lot of development time and resources "fixing" easily avoidable problems that they've created themselves.
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    ForsakenRoe's Avatar
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    Samantha Redgrayve
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    Zodiark
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    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by VentVanitas View Post
    They waste a lot of development time and resources "fixing" easily avoidable problems that they've created themselves.
    'lets make it so everything lines up at 2mins'
    'oh bother, now PLD doesnt do good damage because it's built around doing sustained damage, how do we fix this'
    'uhhh make it burst at 2mins like the rest of them by reworking it a bit'

    if we didnt have such a strict 2min fiesta, more 'sustained' damage could be a viable damage method for healers. say, a healer that has several dots?
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    Deceptus's Avatar
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Behemoth
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    Sage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Sebazy View Post
    Name some completely new and original healer specific ability that truly hit the ground running without requiring multiple painful reworks to shape it into something decent? It's surprisingly tricky really... Earthy Star? Macro Cosmos? Expedient? Excog?
    Dissipation comes to mind. Despite updating it by bringing the fairy back automatically after it ends, the spell has been utter trash for 7 years.

    I guess if the devs actually fixed Living Dead, there is hope for Dissipation.

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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]