The Lessons Not Learned.

[LianaThorne]

A person engaged in covert advertising. The shill attempts to spread buzz by personally endorsing the product in public forums with the pretense of sincerity, when in fact he is being paid for his services.

A shill, also called a plant or a stooge, is a person who publicly helps or gives credibility to a person or organization without disclosing that they have a close relationship with said person or organization.
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Just gonna leave these here because it's kinda laughable when people throw words around that they don't know the full meaning to. To be a shill, you kinda need to be in close association with/hired by the company in the question. It's not just anyone with an opinion that doesn't match yours & is in favor of the game is a shill.
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Oh this one is great for shill too:

A word used by conspiracy theorists when they are losing an argument.
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[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Just gonna leave these here because it's kinda laughable when people throw words around that they don't know the full meaning to. To be a shill, you kinda need to be in close association with/hired by the company in the question. It's not just anyone with an opinion that doesn't match yours & is in favor of the game is a shill.

PFFFT, people actually understanding the meaning of the Words they use?
Nah, stop that noise, just throw it around cause its a cool sounding Buzzword.

[SentioftheHoukai]

So basically if you call someone they're 100% a tried n true shill...because you say so? Not how that works. You operate on this notion that people complaining are always in the right. Folks complaining are no more right than folks defending. Each have a right to do as such. The forums are a place for feedback negative AND positive.

I'll compromise, if we can call defenders fanboys n shills, we can call complainers haters. Only fair

(Also is you you DID know what the word means you wouldn't be using it the way you have)

Sure, but I too know what truly defines a "hater" as you put it. Most here don't, and simply use it as a blanket term to discredit valid critique. This behaviour has risen in frequency and intensity since the release of Endwalker, which has since defined Final Fantasy XIV as the best MMO that has ever existed and will ever exist. As well as establishing Yoshida Naoki as the the infallible God he always has been.

[IkaraGreydancer]

Sure, but I too know what truly defines a "hater" as you put it. Most here don't, and simply use it as a blanket term to discredit valid critique. This behaviour has risen in frequency and intensity since the release of Endwalker, which has since defined Final Fantasy XIV as the best MMO that has ever existed and will ever exist. As well as establishing Yoshida Naoki as the the infallible God he always has been.

Seems like a 2 way issue. People calling folks haters and people calling folks shills. This is the sort of stupid bickering that I imagine keeps the devs from speaking here. It's a clown show