I cant agree, Never seen cnj tank Ifrit, maybe kite/tank but i wouldnt consider that effectivly tanking, now i will say its not impossable I just dont find it very probable, aside from weak def , constant attacks would interupt vital heals. I would however love to see it done. As far as PLD supiriority , yes, I firmly belive in a real, difficult fight, one worth noting and taking some pride in winning, PLD would be the superior tank soo long as the fight dosent require any crowd control. As far as my parse gose, thats just and avg fight 2 outa 5 of those members had never had an Ifrit win b4 that fight. in a speed run 9:30 is bout avg somtimes less realy depends on what Ifrit decides to throw at us. in most cases where the fight takes less then 10 mins , my PLD with my DEF gear (756 DEF no buffs) takes about 22-25k damage on avg, I fully suspect this to go down with this current patch. (note ,sheild has 39 def, not a bad use of a meteria slot ). As far as Ifrit being easy, obviously i would have to agree, its on farm mode as far as im concerned. In a situation where the WHM is actually put in a position where they must be on their toes, the PLD is undoubtly the tank of choice. To argue such would require evidence in my eyes , other then , "WAR is just better , mmm kay?" like i said, I will post parses , damage taken, damage delt, and heals casted/hp regened i will provide only raw data, and if anyone wishes to challenge said data when its provided may do so, but i would suggest maybe some real data instead of "well i can tank the world solo on my WAR" as your only testamony.