The Final Fantasy XIV Problem.

[DiaDeem]

I've been playing since September 2013 on PS3 and I've spent hours on different Mentor Roulettes, struggling parties and teaching parties. I've been helping people I see struggle for almost a decade now.

Not once have I been told to shut up or to not tell people what to do and not once have I had a problem related to this.

I have no idea what kind of language you guys use that keeps getting you in trouble, seriously.

[Midareyukki]

I've been playing since September 2013 on PS3 and I've spent hours on different Mentor Roulettes, struggling parties and teaching parties. I've been helping people I see struggle for almost a decade now.

Not once have I been told to shut up or to not tell people what to do and not once have I had a problem related to this.

Good for you. I've been playing since October 2016, and yes, I have been told to shut up and not tell people what to do plenty of times. The last of which, incidentally, was on Seat of Sacrifice Normal. I was not rude, I was not aggressive. I simply gave a heads up about how the AoEs change depending on whether he charges with Fire or Ice. And many times I was perceived to be aggressive in asking people to heal a certain way, do damage a certain way, use tank cooldowns a certain way, when really I just wanted people to have a better time and not feel frustrated. I even got told off when someone said "God GNB is so squishy" and I pointed out that they weren't using Nebula at all, which would help a lot, especially at the start of a mob pull. And that's all I said. "It's not squishy. I noticed you haven't been using Nebula that much. If you use it at the start of a pull, you mitigate most of the damage and you won't feel so hard-pressed." I got told to stop being an elitist and was threatened to be reported if I told people how to play. What was I supposed to answer to that?

Great that that's been your experience DiaDeem. And I hope you don't have to go through it yourself. But others have. If you haven't experienced it despite playing for so long, then be grateful you haven't encountered people like these. Because when you do, it's really hard through to them that you're there to help.

It doesn't devalue all the other good experiences I've had. And odds are it may be a Datacenter difference, who knows. But those experiences do exist. Some people just do not want to listen, and immediately get angry at you for speaking your voice. Ironically enough, I remember one point in Doma Castle where the tank thought I was calling her out and got aggressive, again saying I was being elitist and not letting new players make mistakes and learn. Me and my FC mates at the time managed to calm her down and she said that she's just too used to playing other games where people are usually mocking and aggressive when pointing out mistakes. She ended up giving me a commendation.

[Striker44]

I've been playing since September 2013 on PS3 and I've spent hours on different Mentor Roulettes, struggling parties and teaching parties. I've been helping people I see struggle for almost a decade now.

Not once have I been told to shut up or to not tell people what to do and not once have I had a problem related to this.

I have no idea what kind of language you guys use that keeps getting you in trouble, seriously.

I think this brings up a good point. If we look at even just some of our posters here, it doesn't seem to be a wide variety of people getting "in trouble" on rare or random occasions; it seems to be a select group of people getting "in trouble" over and over again. Case in point: "Good for you. I've been playing since October 2016, and yes, I have been told to shut up and not tell people what to do plenty of times." The question becomes - at what point do you note that the one common denominator in these exchanges is *you*? If someone's getting told something repeatedly, while a lot of other people report no issues, chances are it has something to do with the way that one person is going about things. That one follows with "And many times I was perceived to be aggressive in asking people to heal a certain way, do damage a certain way, use tank cooldowns a certain way, when really I just wanted people to have a better time and not feel frustrated." When that happens to you specifically "many times," chances are it's something about "you," not the system, not everyone else.

The issues addressed by OP are why I won't offer assistance unless somebody asks for it first. It's also why I generally avoid dutyfinder unless I feel like witnessing a shitshow.

I find this interesting. Almost all of my various group runs are through DF, with the remaining batch being within my FC. The amount of DF groups I've found that turn into a "***show" is minuscule. Most simply get the job done, and usually reasonably well or better.