Mysterious monsters without much explanation?

[Alpheus]

Pronouns: Ifrita has 'em.



The Savage raid strongly implies that Ifrita and Ifrit were basically the same, but we do have to remember that the context of Pandaemonium Savage is 'present-day scientific paper drawing connections between Ancient times and modern day and taking some dramatic liberties', so take that with a grain of salt. But regardless of what Ifrita actually looked like, the intention of her addition was pretty clear: to declare that Ifrit was an Ancient construct that the Amal'jaans misinterpreted as a creator deity, and not a figure that the Amal'jaan society devised of their own accord or derived from their own experiences like the Ixal (although even the Ixal don't really consider Garuda their creator, which it turns out they were right not to). And I don't like that.

I have similar thoughts for the EW ramifications of Gridania's whole setup cuz it makes it REALLY underwhelming for me and rather horrifying at the same time.

[Cleretic]

I have similar thoughts for the EW ramifications of Gridania's whole setup cuz it makes it REALLY underwhelming for me and rather horrifying at the same time.

That sort of an entirely different enormous subject as a whole (and one that might get more attention if we get a variant dungeon set in the Shroud like I'm guessing we will), but the Elementals are a funny combo for us, because they're both essentially a leftover from a different plan in 1.0, and a thing that we in the English-speaking world miss a lot of the cultural context on (they're basically the Japanese myth of the kami bigged up considerably and mixed with a bit of European fae).

Definitely a considerable derail from the subject of this thread, which we're already kinda derailing on a minor level.

[Alpheus]

That sort of an entirely different enormous subject as a whole (and one that might get more attention if we get a variant dungeon set in the Shroud like I'm guessing we will), but the Elementals are a funny combo for us, because they're both essentially a leftover from a different plan in 1.0, and a thing that we in the English-speaking world miss a lot of the cultural context on (they're basically the Japanese myth of the kami bigged up considerably and mixed with a bit of European fae).

Definitely a considerable derail from the subject of this thread, which we're already kinda derailing on a minor level.

Fair, won't derail further just wanted to say (referring to my last post) how you felt about the Amalja is a vibe i share AND that I just feel similarly to how Gridania fared (and Im not even a fan of Gridania) with the EW-ining of a sizeable chunk of its lore. Anyways you have a good one ^^b.