Remove the FC/Personal housing ward classifications for OCE?

[Shibi]

The thread is on removing the split, which I do back. And I don't really want to disrupt and take it off topic with the FCFS argument. However... People do need to stop thinking of what happened/happens on Balmung and applying it to new servers. It's chalk and cheese.

They will ward scan 24/7. Soon as they see a demo, they will use a bot to teleport to that location immediately and auto buy/auto relo to that plot before you've even noticed it's demo'd.

(If the placard is on click-wars, there is no relo)

Enter a lottery for 5 days with no other entries for a guaranteed win, or insta-buy one of the thousands and thousands of empty plots for a guaranteed win. Both will guarantee a house, so I really fail to see the difference.

Can you maybe please describe how their chances are improved when they are already 100%? Because I can't see how it would change, outside of them waiting 5 days to get the guaranteed plot.

(i am going to do a quick survey of the number of plots, and will brb :P)

Back after partial on the server I was shopping on... Now - these numbers are 4.5 months after the zero bug was fixed.

bismarck shiro --

Ward 1 - 43 empty
Ward 2 - 52 Empty
Ward 3 - 54 Empty
Ward 4 - 50 Empty
Ward 5 - 56 Empty
Ward 6 - 56 Empty
Ward 7 - 53 Empty
Ward 8 - 55 Empty
Ward 9 - 54 Empty
Ward 10 - 50 Empty
Ward 11 - 48 Empty
Ward 12 - 52 Empty
Ward 13 - 52 Empty
Ward 14 - 52 Empty
Ward 15 - 48 Empty
Ward 16 - 52 Empty
Ward 17 - 53 Empty
Ward 18 - 51 Empty
Ward 19 - 25 Empty
Ward 20 - 27 Empty
Ward 21 - 24 Empty
Ward 22 - 18 Empty
Ward 23 - 33 Empty
Ward 24 - 23 Empty

bismark mist

Ward 1 - 30 Empty
Ward 2 - 48 Empty
Ward 3 - 53 Empty
Ward 4 - 51 Empty
Ward 5 - 50 Empty
Ward 6 - 48 Empty
Ward 7 - 51 Empty
Ward 8 - 39 Empty
Ward 9 - 54 Empty
Ward 10 - 47 Empty
Ward 11 - 50 Empty
Ward 12 - 47 Empty
Ward 13 - 41 Empty
Ward 14 - 44 Empty
Ward 15 - 48 Empty
Ward 16 - 49 Empty
Ward 17 - 51 Empty
Ward 18 - 50 Empty
Ward 19 - 25 Empty
Ward 20 - 28 Empty
Ward 21 - 22 Empty
Ward 22 - 30 Empty
Ward 23 - 24 Empty
Ward 24 - 27 Empty

Bismarch Emperyum

Ward 1 - 42 Empty
Ward 2 - 55 Empty
Ward 3 - 56 Empty
Ward 4 - 55 Empty
Ward 5 - 57 Empty
Ward 6 - 53 Empty
Ward 7 - 53 Empty
Ward 8 - 54 Empty
Ward 9 - 59 Empty
Ward 10 - 54 Empty
Ward 11 - 55 Empty
Ward 12 - 56 Empty
Ward 13 - 55 Empty
Ward 14 - 55 Empty
Ward 15 - 54 Empty
Ward 16 - 56 Empty
Ward 17 - 54 Empty

Well, you get the idea...

Heres a screencap of LB on that server: https://gyazo.com/30627d63f45a69acbc9df524699fd9bc so you can see it with the types of houses

it's all the same and every ward has at least 1 Medium, some with all of them, and many wards with larges. Zurvan is even softer than this, as it's smaller.

Let's extrapolate... We'll be generous and say there are 45 plots left per ward... 45*24*5 = 5,400 free plots on that server.


With all of this, how does a reversion to FCFS (and hopeful removal of the split) benefit the bot reseller? I can't see how.


And yes, this is an empty LB 11

[Nepentha]

Enter a lottery for 5 days with no other entries, or insta-buy one of the thousands and thousands of empty plots. I really fail to see the difference.

Can you maybe describe how their chances are improved when they are already 100%? Because I can't see how it would change, outside of them waiting 5 days to get the guaranteed plot

That was a lot of work I didn't actually ask for nor was it necessary as it's not relevant to my point. You made an assertion that y'all could beat any RMTers to choice plots. I was simply correcting you on that one. If an RMTer wants something, they will likely get it before you do if it's FCFS. That much has been proven over the years.

As I said, I have no stake with OCE. It may be that y'all stay small like that with plots always open. It could be like Mateus on Crystal, and suddenly be hit with a population boom that sees every plot snapped up abruptly.

I just don't trust that SE will flip the switch when they should. They've said before it's possible to change things according to a world's needs, but they never do. Apartments, for example, they said they could increase them if necessary way back when they introduced them and there were so many it seemed ludicrous that would ever be necessary. But, Balmung's fresh out of apartments atm, and it's happened two other times. Happened once on Mateus, too. Despite saying they can increase the number of apartments, they haven't and likely won't.

Precedence shapes my opinion on this one.

[Shibi]

That was a lot of work I didn't actually ask for nor was it necessary as it's not relevant to my point. You made an assertion that y'all could beat any RMTers to choice plots. I was simply correcting you on that one. If an RMTer wants something, they will likely get it before you do if it's FCFS. That much has been proven over the years.

My assertion was that "RMT won't be advantaged. There is no relocation, and with clicking first there is no guarantee of a S-Tier demo sale." That is still correct, it's not guaranteed. And with > 5400 plots, RMT is such a slim demand that it may as well not exist. Yes, there are 2 or 3 people who collect LB 11/41, but outside them who would buy it, when so many S teir plots are left?


However, we are digressing, the thread argument is that the ward split would be nice to be removed on Materia, and soon enough in the EU servers too. And if it flows the same way, in February or March, on the Dynamis DC too.

Honestly, I don't think we care on new servers. After 6 or 10 split ward lottery rounds, the benefits of removing the split so we can have our housing and FCs together are greater.