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  1. #11
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    drtasteyummy's Avatar
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    Vitalic Oni
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    In terms of raids and dungeons sure, in terms of reworking it to give new players a better experience? Absolute F tier.
    I personally think that ARR is so bad you could call it the great filter, I'm 100% sure that if you would list where most players
    stop playing it's in ARR because the quests, rotation and difficulty is just so, SO boring. I remember when I was in late ARR
    I was so exhausted I legit had a moment where I thought I'm gonna buy a boost.
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    Last edited by drtasteyummy; 10-11-2022 at 03:24 AM.

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    Keiho Fukiku
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    Quote Originally Posted by drtasteyummy View Post
    In terms of raids and dungeons sure, in terms of reworking it to give new players a better experience? Absolute F tier.
    I personally think that ARR is so bad you could call it the great filter, I'm 100% sure that if you would list where most players
    stop playing it's in ARR because the quests, rotation and difficulty is just so, SO boring. I remember when I was in late ARR
    I was so exhausted I legit had a moment where I thought I'm gonna buy a boost.
    And this is after they reduced the 2.1 MSQ by about ~30 quests.
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  3. #13
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    Samsara Lunalight
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    Dragoon Lv 90
    i find them faille hard core in terms of raids and dungeons. what bring me to start this topic is doing old raids, and go dam each one take up to 1h to get in. i find that even in roulettes people skipping raids as they don't give any thing.
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    Last edited by magitekLuna; 10-11-2022 at 03:53 AM.

  4. #14
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    Kaurhz's Avatar
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    Asuka Kirai
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    Dancer Lv 90
    They do a very poor job of it. Many systems go neglected until they elect to reuse them for a relic, they can definitely do a LOT more, and they SHOULD do a LOT more.
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  5. #15
    Player Ransu's Avatar
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    Raansu Omiyari
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    Samurai Lv 100
    Its old content...it doesn't need to be supported. We have roulettes and level sync to keep the MSQ required still active and that's all that's necessary.
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  6. #16
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Personally for what we have now, I think it's very serviceable for keeping a lot of old content relevant. Especially compared to a lot of other MMOs.

    Yeah try wanting to go through all expansion content and questing in WoW, you can't do it. Even with Chromie Time, you just get booted out if you hit the level cap.

    Playing through the game again on an alt, I appreciate the rework to a lot of the old dungeon and solo duty content in ARR. Just want for SE to keep at it and continue to improve it. I think too many people are jaded nowadays to give ARR a lot of flak. Is it just me or do I really miss the slow world building pace of it compared to how current msq is built now? Granted I still enjoy current msq anyway but I feel something is lost there.

    Basically, I think it's fine and I want them to continue to improve upon it. (Psst hey SE, add in bicolor gemstones to ARR-SB zones please)
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  7. #17
    Player Midareyukki's Avatar
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    Harun Asubra
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    Zodiark
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Its old content...it doesn't need to be supported. We have roulettes and level sync to keep the MSQ required still active and that's all that's necessary.
    While I agree to an extent, there is content that permeates the experience past early game. And I define Early Game as being up to the Trial version, which many people likely consider to be too narrow.

    For example, what Kaurhz above you said:
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaurhz View Post
    They do a very poor job of it. Many systems go neglected until they elect to reuse them for a relic, they can definitely do a LOT more, and they SHOULD do a LOT more.
    This is felt in ARR content. Prime example is the GC Ranks. They're not finished. The Squadrons only go up to a certain point in the story. And they haven't been updated to feature Viera and Hrothgar despite having been updated to feature Au Ra when they came out.
    And though old content doesn't need to be supported, they sure keep shoving old content into newer content. Such as the Bozja Weapons and their blatant attempt to revive old content by forcing alliance raid spam or populate low level areas for FATE grinding. Or, if you're not inclined to do Delubrum, do Palace of the Dead. Meaning Square does still see it as relevant to an extent, so they support it beyond just roulettes o: It's just not done in a good sense.
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  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ransu View Post
    Its old content...it doesn't need to be supported. We have roulettes and level sync to keep the MSQ required still active and that's all that's necessary.
    not really as then there just nothing to do in this game. relevant new content in each patch last what? weak to 4 weeks? what then? people constantly talk about how there lots of old content you can do. but lots of time you just cant or it take WAY to much time to even get in to it. but its not just old dungeons/raids/trials but hole systems people loved. GL find any one to do deep dungeons. why squadron in the game at the same time as you cant use them no where. when was the last time they added any thing new to the gold saucer rewards? what about the fashion report? don't it deserve some new glams to get from doing it? fishing was really popular when it was new. why it got neglected? need i go more as i can.
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  9. #19
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    Cordelia Emery
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    Quote Originally Posted by magitekLuna View Post
    not really as then there just nothing to do in this game. relevant new content in each patch last what? weak to 4 weeks? what then? people constantly talk about how there lots of old content you can do. but lots of time you just cant or it take WAY to much time to even get in to it. but its not just old dungeons/raids/trials but hole systems people loved. GL find any one to do deep dungeons. why squadron in the game at the same time as you cant use them no where. when was the last time they added any thing new to the gold saucer rewards? what about the fashion report? don't it deserve some new glams to get from doing it? fishing was really popular when it was new. why it got neglected? need i go more as i can.
    They literally reworked spearfishing in EW
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  10. #20
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    Samsara Lunalight
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    They literally reworked spearfishing in EW
    and its a problem they rework things that do not need it . like YEY they reworked old dungeons that was easy to make them EVEN MORE EASY? how it helps? i dont see any one being happy to go to this new reworked dungeons if they got a say in it.
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