Sick of the christforsaken Nightclubs

[RoadGGG]

Boring. The word you're looking for is "boring".

I like roleplaying online, I like writing stories and acting out a character with other people. I've worked at a venue in FF14 and we tried hard to keep that engagement going with the people who visited. When I went to these nightclubs, there barely was any interaction other than the bare minimum, and people would just stand there, letting their characters loop /beesknees. That for me isn't roleplaying. There's just barebones interactivity. We're in a game with so much good lore, with so much stuff you can pick up on and interpret, expand upon, and you just stand there? I really do fail to see the appeal of it, at least so far as how people keep being labelling it as "roleplaying". Sure, what you do is your business, so if you're into that, props for you. But these spaces are so dominant and widespread that I wonder why people aren't doing more with them.

Good sir, you dropped your crown on the ground. Took the words out of my mouth and put it far more eloquently than I ever could.

[Eraden]

I roleplay my character as a very much feral dragon kin. When she goes to venues or restaurants or cafes it is very much with the intent to chew on the furniture, the cutlery, any books she might find and any dead things (she especially likes chewing on dead things). I seem to recall her even taking a bite or two out of a prop motorbike inside a restaurant which prompted the proprietress to rush out and give her some bones to chew on. It always end up in a fun bit of RP. No sexual innuendos required. Just a lot of fun keeping a feral dragon kin from chewing the place apart. Much conversation occurs during this and everyone seems to enjoy it. You have to make your own fun when you RP.

[Tiramu]

I find it interesting players complain about nightclub/club/RP venture adverts (and I've seen some very lengthy and using tons of ASCII whatever symbols in them) but no one complaining about the heavy-handed FC adverts that spam one after the other. Hm.

But you need to ask yourself, is the issue the advert spam or what is being advertised?

FC ads are nowhere near as common or intrusive and are at least trying to attract people to something gameplay related. I dont mind them in the same way I dont mind someone doing a shout for a crafter.

The nightclub ones are irritating because they roll on and on, its the same clubs over and over, RMT probably fuels the lot of them (lets face it, people seeking sex in exchange for gil will often put real money down for it), and its generally way more spammy than normal game shoutouts.

[Absimiliard]

Stuff

Of course there's barebones interactivity. Everybody is cybering in tells or off in a private room gambling. That's what those places are for. They're just a bunch of different kinds of TOS violations all gathered into one place. These venues damage the game's image by their mere existence. Doesn't help that PF and fellowship finder are clogged to the gills with their degeneracy, not to mention all the spam in every hub city on every single server.

[RoadGGG]

I roleplay my character as a very much feral dragon kin. When she goes to venues or restaurants or cafes it is very much with the intent to chew on the furniture, the cutlery, any books she might find and any dead things (she especially likes chewing on dead things). I seem to recall her even taking a bite or two out of a prop motorbike inside a restaurant which prompted the proprietress to rush out and give her some bones to chew on. It always end up in a fun bit of RP. No sexual innuendos required. Just a lot of fun keeping a feral dragon kin from chewing the place apart. Much conversation occurs during this and everyone seems to enjoy it. You have to make your own fun when you RP.

I mean, you do that, but that implies you enter venues that will tolerate it, and I'm not looking to be a gremlin. That still doesn't solve the issue of the PF Spam and Shout Chat Spam.

It's been really eye opening with how people against the argument have either a) Suggested a "solution" that I already mentioned isn't optimal, b)Actively engage in ad hominine (calling me prude, telling me to grow up ). Was hoping to have a genuine conversation about this problem.

[ronibosch]

I roleplay my character as a very much feral dragon kin. When she goes to venues or restaurants or cafes it is very much with the intent to chew on the furniture, the cutlery, any books she might find and any dead things (she especially likes chewing on dead things). I seem to recall her even taking a bite or two out of a prop motorbike inside a restaurant which prompted the proprietress to rush out and give her some bones to chew on. It always end up in a fun bit of RP. No sexual innuendos required. Just a lot of fun keeping a feral dragon kin from chewing the place apart. Much conversation occurs during this and everyone seems to enjoy it. You have to make your own fun when you RP.

That's...so cute. I might try RP in this game, after all.

[Midareyukki]

Of course there's barebones interactivity. Everybody is cybering in tells or off in a private room gambling. That's what those places are for. They're just a bunch of different kinds of TOS violations all gathered into one place. These venues damage the game's image by their mere existence. Doesn't help that PF and fellowship finder are clogged to the gills with their degeneracy, not to mention all the spam in every hub city on every single server.

Just open a Fellowship for it at that point, you're getting the same without the fuss of decorating a whole house for it.

The one I worked at was a small bar. Since the owner and our friends were Hrothgars, we basically spun it as Hrothgars who came to Eorzea after the events of Zadnor to share Bozjan food and perceived culture. Worst it ever got was a salacious pun with one of our food's names, it never went past that. Most people just interacted with us and wanted to see how we expanded upon the content through food: we'd give them names and some lore and if asked on it, we'd come up with lore-abiding stories on the spot (with some pre-planned consistency, as we weren't allowed to use macros to explain our food's lore either). We'd cook for people, explained how they were made, interacted with the client and the staff if we knew it wouldn't get cluttered, and it'd go from there. And we used in-game items to make it feel more real :P if you were the client, I'd pity your inventory slots.

As for the PF/Shout spam... apart from Fellowships, there just isn't a place where people would actively check to know about that venue's existence. So most people resort to Party Finder and cluttering up people's chat logs. On that note I don't think it's inherently their fault, because they do have to advertise that they exist somehow. I blame the game for not doing a better job at keeping those things organized. Sure, you can check if houses are venues by talking to the Ferryman and checking a plot's tags, but that's so minimal and vague. It doesn't tell you what's going on in there, it doesn't tell you what the vibes/environment is like, it doesn't even tell you how long it's open. And apart from discords, there's just no easy way to ensure people visit if not going around town, do obnoxious shout macros and post on PF. It's not something people should do, but there isn't much of an effective alternative.

[Zsolen]

The culture of "RP" as a whole won't change in this game, until SE makes changes.

They aren't going to stop the shouts, the multiple entries in pf, violating ToS, and if they are doing it, the illegal activity, just because someone wanted to discuss it on the forums. As far as they are concerned, if they are not banned for it, it's not wrong (even if it is illegal). Name calling is their only defense, because there is no defense. I wonder how many actual SFW venues people would never open, because they don't want to risk a certain crowd from spoiling things.

[Renalt]

I roleplay my character as a very much feral dragon kin. When she goes to venues or restaurants or cafes it is very much with the intent to chew on the furniture, the cutlery, any books she might find and any dead things (she especially likes chewing on dead things). I seem to recall her even taking a bite or two out of a prop motorbike inside a restaurant which prompted the proprietress to rush out and give her some bones to chew on. It always end up in a fun bit of RP. No sexual innuendos required. Just a lot of fun keeping a feral dragon kin from chewing the place apart. Much conversation occurs during this and everyone seems to enjoy it. You have to make your own fun when you RP.

10/10. Would let you chew on my leg.

[Lunalepsy]

I'm not fond of those either. They're just as bad, but at least to me, they haven't been as prelevant or obnoxious. For every 1 FC announcement, there's 10 Nightclubs.



I am a player who likes to actually roleplay. Pretend to be my character in the universe of the game. Not everyone does this, but I and many other people do. Venues that promote this type of roleplay are much harder to find because of the PF Spam.

And as I said, if a nightclub posts an add right as, say, someone posts an S-Rank Hunt Shout and I've got my chat window shrunk down or I'm not looking at the screen, I could very well miss that. A hypothetical but it can happen.

Tbh, I don't mind the ads. What I do mind is ppl trollbaiting to get others suspended for no apparent reason.