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    Player NekoMataMata's Avatar
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    Not every job is for every person nor do you have to play every job. Besides that, the moment we start dumbing down jobs so that we can be absolutely certain that everyone can play them 100% efficiently without any problems then there will be no challenge left in this game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    Not every job is for every person nor do you have to play every job. Besides that, the moment we start dumbing down jobs so that we can be absolutely certain that everyone can play them 100% efficiently without any problems then there will be no challenge left in this game.
    I disagree. Simplification doesn't necessarily equate to "dumbing it down." That terms is also a little demeaning. I'm not dumb. I just have certain physical limitations. Another caveat here is that not everyone plays for a challenge. While some do find challenge fun, others don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SailorCeti View Post
    I disagree. Simplification doesn't necessarily equate to "dumbing it down." That terms is also a little demeaning. I'm not dumb. I just have certain physical limitations. Another caveat here is that not everyone plays for a challenge. While some do find challenge fun, others don't.
    And this is what happens when a game tries to cater to everyone. Alright devs, ball is in your court. Will you simplify further or make it more accessible? Are you going to make classes play more dynamically or ensure everyone is balanced? I can hardly wait for the answer~!
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    Quote Originally Posted by SailorCeti View Post
    I disagree. Simplification doesn't necessarily equate to "dumbing it down." That terms is also a little demeaning. I'm not dumb. I just have certain physical limitations. Another caveat here is that not everyone plays for a challenge. While some do find challenge fun, others don't.
    I think this is exactly the point the poster you were responding to was trying to make. Different people have different interests and different abilities. As long as there are likewise different classes with different complexities that can appeal to the variety of players, you have a solid setup. It doesn't mean every single class should somehow manage to work for every single player. Take your own particular style of play, abilities, and shortcomings - look at the classes, test them out as you like - and see which particular classes suit you best.

    You lost me after using shift and ctrl. That's already too much.
    I'm genuinely curious about this comment, because a few posts later you mention playing WoW and setting up your abilities on 1-5 and F1-F5. It's the same exact idea, just instead of F1-F5, the second set of abilities is bound to Shift+1 to Shift+5.

    Also, I'm a little hesitant to mix casting with melee. My reaction time, as you might image, is pretty bad. I like long range, so I can see more of the field and react a little better. Still die a lot, but that can't be helped.
    There's very little melee w/ RDM. It's one specific combo you can use every so often after building up resources. The rest of the time you're a ranged caster. I think it's confusion with the person you were responding to...when she mentioned "melee", she was talking about actual pure-melee classes and suggesting to avoid those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker44 View Post
    I'm genuinely curious about this comment, because a few posts later you mention playing WoW and setting up your abilities on 1-5 and F1-F5. It's the same exact idea, just instead of F1-F5, the second set of abilities is bound to Shift+1 to Shift+5.
    Range of movement. Using your F1-F5 keys requires less extension than using your full range of numbers alongside shift and control keys. It's not necessarily a skill or thought issue, it's a physical limitation issue. People with arthritis sometimes have their dexterity limited in rather unexpected ways. One such example would be the propensity for most people to press shift with a pinky finger and extend to press whatever other keys they need -- or if it's too far, they'll use the other hand. An individual with arthritis may not be able to use their pinky like that at all, and using the other hand isn't always an option depending on what's going on in the game.
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    Last edited by Absimiliard; 10-06-2022 at 03:26 AM.