Anyone else just feeling really disapointed this expansion?*vent*

[Boblawblah]

I think part of why people are seemingly so upset is that they sub month after month for years. I have my issues with the game, but I simply stop subbing when I'm not enjoying it. I don't have a house, and my friends play other games, so I have nothing that is strongly attaching me to this game other than my enjoyment of it. When I get bored, I move on. then I come back when I want.

That doesn't excuse the game for any missteps, but I can easily just move on when it does.

[Sheriyana]

I noticed this as well the game seems to get tired way faster than it used to, I can’t believe we are already at the state we are in now barely in the .2 patch, this is the kinda boredom I’d expect from a .5 patch

It has honestly felt like that to me since the week after 6.0 drop. The MSQ took maybe a couple days at most and after that there was next to nothing but leveling to do. And it really didn't help that the MSQ was awful this time around, at least the main expansion MSQ for Shadowbringers was amazing, even though the expansion was barren in content otherwise. I've been baffled at this with the previous expansions too, how do you release an expansion and basically run out of stuff to do in a week? They really need to take a long hard look at their content release schedule and start pushing out long term content way earlier to keep people engaged. Now we've had to wait what 10 months to get the relics and even the relics sound like noncontent this time around with us going back to no dedicated relic content. So expect farming poetics and Crystal Tower another 50 times, can't wait...

[Cithaerias_pyropina]

I'm not really disappointed. Now, during ShB I was. I was quite a bit more optimistic back then. Now, unfortunately, with EW, I have become more apathetic with and leading up it.

On par for Endwalker's despair theme.

• The rest of Island Sanctuary - what we just got is the "introduction phase" - let that sink in for a minute.
• A new Deep Dungeon
• The two new dungeon systems
• Part3 of the current 8-man Raid
• Parts 2 & 3 of the current 24-man Alliance Raid
• Lvl 90 Relics + Story quests for said relic
• the 2nd and 3rd Beast Tribes for this expansion
• More Trial fights and their savage mounts
• The meta Trial savage mount quest
• New dungeons

And this is probably the short list considering we really don't know everything they plan on patching in before 7.0

If people want to look back on Endwalker and say they were disappointed, that's fine, but wouldn't it make sense to wait until ALL of Endwalkers' content is patched in before making that judgement? :O

• The rest of Island Sanctuary - what we just got is the "introduction phase" - let that sink in for a minute.
  ---If the gameplay loop still consist of running in circles clicking glowing rocks, trees and shrubs no amount of updates will make it interesting.
• A new Deep Dungeon
  ---This won't be here for another 3 to 5 months.
• The two new dungeon systems
  ---With how badly jobs are balanced for 8 player content I have little hope they're going to be balanced for 4 player content. Also won't be here for another 2 to 3 weeks, if even that.
• Part3 of the current 8-man Raid
  ---Won't be here for another 6 to 8 months. Also, this is stuff we always get during an expansion.
• Parts 2 & 3 of the current 24-man Alliance Raid
  ---Won't be here for another 3 to 5 months. Also, this is stuff we always get during an expansion.
• Lvl 90 Relics + Story quests for said relic
  ---Lol Hildibrand. Won't be here for around 2 to 3 weeks, if even that. Also, Relics are stuff we always get during an expansion.
• the 2nd and 3rd Beast Tribes for this expansion
  ---Won't be here for another 3 to 10 months. Also, this is stuff we always get during an expansion.
• More Trial fights and their savage mounts
  ---This is stuff we always get during an expansion. Farming the same fight again and again, such very fun.
• The meta Trial savage mount quest
  ---What? Probably still something we always get.
• New dungeons
  ---This is stuff we always get during an expansion. And with how dull jobs are to play they're definitely something to look forward to steamrolling.

See the problem? The content with staying power takes forever to be released.

[Syln]

I love that expansion so far, but sure there are stuff that i disliked in it : The deletion of samurai i mean kaiten, the fact that msq didn't felt like the world was facing an apocalypse at all, NPC that were supposed to be dead but came back anyway (even though you see it coming from miles away, it's still a disappointment.)

Overall still a really good expansion that i'll put just behind shadowbringer for now.

[Renalt]

Yeah burn out can just pop up out of nowhere. If looking for a new MMO...one I'd suggest is the City of Heroes Homecoming. It's a private server for a game that was killed off even though it was super popular. At the very least it'll keep you busy for a week. It has by far the best character creator you're going to see on any game ever. So if you are into designing characters....this one will keep you busy.

[Deveryn]

See the problem? The content with staying power takes forever to be released.

MMOs in a nutshell. I touched on this earlier. It's only a problem if you lack the ability to cope with that.

[IkaraGreydancer]

Everything in any game is an "optional luxury".

Doesn't matter if it's vanity glamour and minions, or endgame gear and player power, it's virtual and you don't need any of it. To some players glamor and collecting is far more important to them anyway and they couldn't care less about gear.

If pay-to-win mobile games are considered being too heavy on monetization, then FF14 isn't an exception. Whether you're fine with it or not, they definitely monetize this game quite heavily.

How much impact that has varies by the player. Nothing in that shop gives players an edge over anyone else. Hell you don't even have to interact with the shop in game as iirc Yoshi doesn't want it plastered in people's faces.

You yourself have to go out of your way to access if you so choose. Seems a good say for SE to handle that.

[Supersnow845]

How much impact that has varies by the player. Nothing in that shop gives players an edge over anyone else. Hell you don't even have to interact with the shop in game as iirc Yoshi doesn't want it plastered in people's faces.

You yourself have to go out of your way to access if you so choose. Seems a good say for SE to handle that.

Try being any sort of competent crafter with no retainers

Retainers are literally “pay real money to buy more inventory space” and that is one of the most predatory things an MMO can do outside of BDO style RNG upgrade weapon is destroyed if you fail

[Ameela]

You wanna talk predatory? Let's talk about the mobile games that start off free, but they run limited time events and offer all kinds of boosts and special sales for currency and special items to use in-game. Some MMOs are like that as well, FFXIV is not. It's 100% playable with full features for the price of sub and expacs only. This is just good business.

I mean at the end of the day free games need to have some sort of monetisation in order to recoup the costs, whether that monetisation is fair is another matter entirely, but it's not something that they can just take out.
With XIV you have to pay for the base game, then pay for the latest expansion and then pay a monthly sub fee on top of it all. There is absolutely -no- reason for this game to have a cash shop as extensive as it is currently.
Plus it's not like XIV doesn't also run its own limited time events, which are fine and all but the fact that if you miss one of them you then have to pay for the rewards you missed in the cash shop rather than just having it be available again the next year is kind of baffling.
And this is on top of all the other questionable tactics the game pulls to wring some extra bucks out of you. Yeah, Yoshi-P can pretend like it's all fine and dandy for you to take a break and unsub if there's nothing to do, but that doesn't stop the devs from putting a bunch of content in that's time gated just long enough to make sure it takes over a month for you to complete it all like the beast tribes and the tome limit. The biggest pisstake here was definitely with 5.5 when they had those weekly NieR quests that took like 6 weeks to complete for absolutely no reason.

[IkaraGreydancer]

Try being any sort of competent crafter with no retainers

Retainers are literally “pay real money to buy more inventory space” and that is one of the most predatory things an MMO can do outside of BDO style RNG upgrade weapon is destroyed if you fail

I mean...being fair here...you chose to take up the crafting role. Many don't and don't have this issue. Many don't and also do have this issue. This is why I said it varies by the person.

If it's predatory don't buy into it. Take the hit and voice your issue with it. But you can't voice your issue with it while continuing to buy it. Makes your points mean nothing in the grand scheme.

I could name plenty of things worse than buying space but again what I find worse may not be as such to you.