Please don't harass people for ignoring/disliking the story

[RukoBoshi]

Hopefully 7.0 gives enough of a lore break that the devs can allow new players to level up in a potential new zone that dumps them off at the start of latest xpac instead.

I really hope the devs think of doing that.
I have a couple friends that are interested to play, but don't want to deal with 4 expansions worth of story right away.

I love the story, but i get that, it's overwhelming. A jumping point in the modern FFXIV would be nice.
Playing catching up while your friends enjoy a new expansion can make you feel left out.

[NekoMataMata]

The story is way better and solid than a certain other mmo.

Its failing isn't itself per se, but the fact it was done in a way where you have to do it serially in completion across all xpacs.

In WoW, you're not forced to play all of the xpacs back to back.
In fact, since BfA or so, they start you off in dedicated new player zones that then dump you off in the xpac before latest xpac.
What Blizzard instead has done for lore folks is let you play older xpacs out of order/at your own pace w/ chromie time. This lets players engage with end game much faster, rather than deleting the MMO halfway because it's taking too long.

BTW, I am a player who xp-locked a toon just to keep one permanently in chromie time. I also am one of the players who get angry when they're booted out of an xpac because they out-leveled it, hence why MSQ exists in the first place in FFXIV. That said, having the issue of the story being unable to broken up into smaller pieces that can be done out of order was a mistake.

Hopefully 7.0 gives enough of a lore break that the devs can allow new players to level up in a potential new zone that dumps them off at the start of latest xpac instead.

Story of FFXIV is solid, that's not the issue when people often complain about it. It's misdirected analysis on the true issue.

The general feeling I get about ff14 overall on a lot of issues, story included always comes down to "It's better than basically every other option overall, but still not good enough."

[Reap00]

I need to stress that if you love the story and think more people should experience it, that's fine. I also need to stress that I'm not talking about players who skip everything & write essays about how bad the story is. Those people are dumb, and I honestly don't think they're common enough to be worth complaining about.

What I want to highlight is the alarming number of players who think it's okay to literally bully people for not being invested in the story. I recognize that much of the community loves the narrative, and that it's a considerably large component of the game. But it's not the only thing it has to offer, and you don't have to care about the writing at all to enjoy it as an MMO.

People are not going to enjoy the same things you do, and that's okay. People are also going to enjoy things different from how you enjoy them, and you need to be okay with that. Bullying people for playing it the 'wrong' way doesn't give any life-changing realization about the narrative. It just builds resentment and makes folks even less likely to play it the way you personally feel is 'correct.' Or worse, they'll quit playing entirely, even if they otherwise enjoy the core gameplay. And that's not a good thing.

I'm a little biased because I'm speaking from personal experience, having faced the brunt of this harassment myself. It doesn't matter how important the story is, or that it's 'a Final Fantasy game first,' harassing people for having personal preferences should not be acceptable behavior.

Please be better than this.

The people that get "harassed" ask for it. If you don't like or skip the story that is your call. Beating your chest and bragging about it will get you the "harassment" you deserve.

[RukoBoshi]

The people that get "harassed" ask for it. If you don't like or skip the story that is your call. Beating your chest and bragging about it will get you the "harassment" you deserve.

Harrasment is never deserved. Nor is berating someone for not liking something you do.
This isn't a behavior that should be encouraged.

[hagare]

Harrasment is never deserved. Nor is berating someone for not liking something you do.
This isn't a behavior that should be encouraged.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Z5-P9v3F8w

[NekoMataMata]

The people that get "harassed" ask for it. If you don't like or skip the story that is your call. Beating your chest and bragging about it will get you the "harassment" you deserve.

Has anyone told you that you're an absolute barbarian? A beast that immediately disregards other's opinions for no reason other than the fact that you disagree. You don't even bother to attempt to create any legitimate reasoning for it.

I don't agree with someone simply saying, "Story bad" as loudly as they can and acting proud of it, but I don't believe they deserve to be harassed for it either. And I especially don't think anyone that takes the time to formulate well throughout critique deserves to be harassed either. Generally speaking, no one deserves to be harassed or treated poorly for any reason.

[Ivtrix]

The people that get "harassed" ask for it. If you don't like or skip the story that is your call. Beating your chest and bragging about it will get you the "harassment" you deserve.

Funny, we could change the criteria to “if you don’t raid and beat your chest about it you deserve to be harassed” and the entire narrative would change.

Please self reflect.

[SannaR]

It's possible that the food gets directly converted to aether and powers the simulacrum. It's alchemical rather than mechanical, whatever that means in practice, but it may mean that Varshahn is physically a living body without a soul. They haven't explored that aspect of it.

Maybe though we do only see the both of them side by side twice I think. And Varshahn just stares blankly while Vrtra isn't splitting his focus. I wonder how different both Varshahn bodies are from mammets. Since you can make those be lifeless in order to practice healing magic. Yet when out of that mode it will function normally. Not that this thread should be the place to discuss this. Might have to start a thread for this.

[Deveryn]

The point is miss by the disingenious forum paladin using the bad faith magic. The Burger King and the Mad King are working hard with writer guild to creating the course correction to making the game closer to the critical MMO Older Scroll and the Games of the Throwns written by the Matsuno. Is why the new Hildabrandt story is need before relics. The forum is for the angry feedback not for the great community by the way. It is crepe to support the rockstar developer team. If all the player liking the game then they can not dislike it and that is the haras which mean that writer guild must fight back. So as a humble burger man must agree to disagree. You can not like the story in the public because it deny the course correction. Only by the hate will game become great.

damn. this mf spittin'

[ronibosch]

damn. this mf spittin'

My brain grows in size each time I read his posts. I'm gonna need a new skull.