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    Quote Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis View Post
    Like I said, criterion EX is already i610 min ilvl so I don't think criterion savage will be i610
    I understand why you might think that, but a difference in difficulty doesn't always have to mean a higher ilvl is required. Savage will have more in the way of challenges for people to overcome. The following is from the last Live Letter

    Groups joining Another Sil’dihn Subterrane with less than 4 members will be matched together. In exchange for the usual methods of resurrection being unavailable, each member will be able to use Variant Raise II a certain number of times, though all other Variant Actions will also be unavailable. Fulfilling certain requirements will recover Variant Raise II’s limited number of uses. Enemies that were defeated will not revive after your whole party is KO’d. Even common enemies will feature a slew of different attacks, so you may want to consider the priority of which ones to defeat first.


    As for Another Sil’dihn Subterrane (Savage), joining will require a pre-formed party of four players. All methods of resurrection and Variant Actions will be unavailable, and all defeated enemies will revive when your party is KO’d. Enemies also won’t telegraph any of their attacks, you’ll need to memorize them from Another Sil’dihn Subterrane. Furthermore, they’ll become much stronger after certain period, so you’ll need to clear the dungeon within a certain time limit!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    I understand why you might think that, but a difference in difficulty doesn't always have to mean a higher ilvl is required. Savage will have more in the way of challenges for people to overcome. The following is from the last Live Letter

    Groups joining Another Sil’dihn Subterrane with less than 4 members will be matched together. In exchange for the usual methods of resurrection being unavailable, each member will be able to use Variant Raise II a certain number of times, though all other Variant Actions will also be unavailable. Fulfilling certain requirements will recover Variant Raise II’s limited number of uses. Enemies that were defeated will not revive after your whole party is KO’d. Even common enemies will feature a slew of different attacks, so you may want to consider the priority of which ones to defeat first.


    As for Another Sil’dihn Subterrane (Savage), joining will require a pre-formed party of four players. All methods of resurrection and Variant Actions will be unavailable, and all defeated enemies will revive when your party is KO’d. Enemies also won’t telegraph any of their attacks, you’ll need to memorize them from Another Sil’dihn Subterrane. Furthermore, they’ll become much stronger after certain period, so you’ll need to clear the dungeon within a certain time limit!
    Do you have an example where ex/savage is same ilvl requirements?
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis View Post
    Do you have an example where ex/savage is same ilvl requirements?
    Delubrum Reginae is 430 for both difficulties and the closest match to this content. I think it might even come with a level sync as those did, otherwise it gets too easy when the next set of gear comes out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Delubrum Reginae is 430 for both difficulties and the closest match to this content. I think it might even come with a level sync as those did, otherwise it gets too easy when the next set of gear comes out.
    Bozja is not a particularly relevant example, because in Bozjan content—including Delubrum—your stats are based just on having something in a gear slot; you can use a level 5 weapon and it will function the same as a level 80 one. The only stats on gear that matter are the Bozja-specific stats on certain sets. A better comparison would be Storm's Crown EX (minimum ilevel i600) and P5S (minimum ilevel i600).

    Folks have claimed i620 before for the Criterion dungeon's Savage variant, and while I don't remember seeing that confirmed anywhere, I can see that as a reasonable ilevel; i620 gear is obtainable via just tomestones. The only place I see it as a 'maybe not' is that you cannot have two Lunar Emissary rings (due to their being flagged Unique), and there's no other i620+ accessory option available outside of savage at present. Which means you'd have to do savage to get an Abyssos ring (in P5S), or a Coating (in P6S) to augment your first Lunar Emissary one, or you'd have to wait until 6.3 lands and you can use the alliance raid upgrade tokens to upgrade the first Lunar Emissary ring and get a second (unaugmented one).

    That's the reason I'd hope for i615—current crafted gear plus at least some tomestone gear—to make it accessible immediately without requiring savage. But even straight i620 doesn't require savage, if you're willing to wait until 6.3 (and the second alliance raid) for an upgrade token to resolve that last accessory slot.
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    Player CaedemSanguis's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    Delubrum Reginae is 430 for both difficulties and the closest match to this content. I think it might even come with a level sync as those did, otherwise it gets too easy when the next set of gear comes out.
    from what we saw in LL, criterion savage is synced at i635 (no min ilvl), like ultimates (i605 synced for dsr, no min ilvl)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis View Post
    from what we saw in LL, criterion savage is synced at i635 (no min ilvl), like ultimates (i605 synced for dsr, no min ilvl)

    So why post this thread and then come back with the answer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    So why post this thread and then come back with the answer?
    synced at 635 (without min ilvl) doens't necessarily mean "only doable with i630"
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