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  1. 10-02-2022 02:39 AM #1
    CaedemSanguis
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    Criterion savage, only for i625-i630?

    I was wondering, if the savage version of variant dungeon will be specifically designed for those at ilvl625+? Or maybe even only for those at ilvl 630?
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  2. 10-02-2022 03:11 AM #2
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    610 will be the likely ilvl just because there are people that aren't into savage tier that would find a light party easier to deal with.
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  3. 10-02-2022 03:20 AM #3
    CaedemSanguis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    610 will be the likely ilvl just because there are people that aren't into savage tier that would find a light party easier to deal with.
    From what I've seen in the LL, criterion EX is 610 min ilvl
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  4. 10-02-2022 07:10 PM #4
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    610 will be the likely ilvl just because there are people that aren't into savage tier that would find a light party easier to deal with.
    Variant Dungeons are meant to be for the casual "easier" player base.

    Savage dungeons are meant for people who strive for an extra challenge.

    I don't think BiS will be the base ilevel for it, prob 615 ish.
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  5. 10-03-2022 12:29 AM #5
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    610 will be the likely ilvl just because there are people that aren't into savage tier that would find a light party easier to deal with.
    Pretty much has to be 610 as it needs to be accessible to non raiders.
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  6. 10-03-2022 12:39 AM #6
    CaedemSanguis
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Pretty much has to be 610 as it needs to be accessible to non raiders.
    why will the savage version be i610 when the ex version is 610 min ilvl ?
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  7. 10-03-2022 09:35 AM #7
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    Quote Originally Posted by CaedemSanguis View Post
    why will the savage version be i610 when the ex version is 610 min ilvl ?
    Hate to be that person but source on that claim?
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
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  8. 10-03-2022 02:00 PM #8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Hate to be that person but source on that claim?
    It's actually visible in the live letter stream. It says 610~ note the ~.
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  10. 10-03-2022 04:31 AM #10
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    610 will be the likely ilvl just because there are people that aren't into savage tier that would find a light party easier to deal with.
    Savage starts at 625, they specified. It's not being called savage for no reason. I believe 610 is for the "extreme" version.
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