MSQ question

[Rhaggnos]

Anyone else annoyed with the whole Meteion arc of quests?

If being strictly pragmatic, would decapitating Meteion and Hermes on sight in Elpis prevent the Final Days from triggering and get it over with?

I know I'm supposed to care about them but around the 7th time she ran off in a row I kinda just gave up. I just wanna rip them open and go back to Eorzia to tend my farm and play the casino.

[Rongway]

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[SannaR]

You can't unlock your farm at that point in the story and when doing that part for the 1st time you don't know how the final days are caused or why. So, no I guess?

[Iscah]

The Sundering has happened in our past and led to everything we are.

From our sole example of "changing" a timeline, G'raha's original timeline still exists (as indicated in the side story "An Unpromised Future") despite him changing events so it cannot happen in this one.

Therefore, even if we could stop him, the best we could achieve is a second timeline in addition to the one where those things must happen because they already did. And even then, there's no guarantee that the second path of events would be any better. Just different.

[Rhaggnos]

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[Rhaggnos]

The Sundering has happened in our past and led to everything we are.

From our sole example of "changing" a timeline, G'raha's original timeline still exists (as indicated in the side story "An Unpromised Future") despite him changing events so it cannot happening this one.

Therefore, even if we could stop him, the best we could achieve is a second timeline in addition to the ones where those things must happen because they already did. And even then, there's no guarantee that the second path of events would be any better. Just different.

True. I guess I'm just frustrated at how the story is both needlessly convoluted and painfully predictable, while filled to the brim with filler fetch questing.

I very much enjoyed Shadowbringers, but since the whole Garlean debacle I can't say I much care for Endwalker so far.

Add to that the fact that our silent protagonist just stands there 5m away as people get murdered in Not-India... it's entirely too frustrating how cliché and contrived the story has been so far ^^

[Jeeqbit]

Anyone else annoyed with the whole Meteion arc of quests?

If being strictly pragmatic, would decapitating Meteion and Hermes on sight in Elpis prevent the Final Days from triggering and get it over with?

I know I'm supposed to care about them but around the 7th time she ran off in a row I kinda just gave up. I just wanna rip them open and go back to Eorzia to tend my farm and play the casino.

The problem was that if you changed events by doing that, then events you do want to happen might not happen. You probably wouldn't be the Warrior of Light, so what bad things might have happened if you weren't? It's difficult to know so it's better to stick with what you do know. Unfortunately you almost did change events that much but got lucky.

They are arguably more powerful than you as well, considering you are using borrowed aether to sustain a being of their size. They call you a familiar because they actually think they can get rid of you like that.

Now if you did attack them you might unleash a trial the size of which we see when we fight them later on, except they would have a lot of help. All the people in Elpis would be against you.

Not to mention, Meteion disappears. If you were to attack them, they would reappear, completely fixed. They have an ability to transform into other shapes.

Hermes would not be stopped easily because he is an Ascian and you are (almost) a familiar.

[Rhaggnos]

The problem was that if you changed events by doing that, then events you do want to happen might not happen. You probably wouldn't be the Warrior of Light, so what bad things might have happened if you weren't? It's difficult to know so it's better to stick with what you do know. Unfortunately you almost did change events that much but got lucky.

They are arguably more powerful than you as well, considering you are using borrowed aether to sustain a being of their size. They call you a familiar because they actually think they can get rid of you like that.

Now if you did attack them you might unleash a trial the size of which we see when we fight them later on, except they would have a lot of help. All the people in Elpis would be against you.

Not to mention, Meteion disappears. If you were to attack them, they would reappear, completely fixed. They have an ability to transform into other shapes.

Hermes would not be stopped easily because he is an Ascian and you are (almost) a familiar.

Technicalities aside, you do hold your own against Venat, who seems to be able to 1v20 them in the cinematic later on. Also I doubt Hermes has any sort of superhuman reflexes, and nobody is stronger than a blade in the back if they don't have time to put up barriers etc, I reckon. They're strong wizards, not Kryptonians.

But yeah, you can see the "I summoned doom from space out of curiosity" coming from a mile away. Also what's Zenos' deal? He seems completely unaffected by the world's end. The poor creatures are trapped on that planet with him xD

[Iscah]

The other thing to keep in mind is that our primary goal in travelling to the past was to witness what did happen there so we could fix it in the present. If we had changed it to be something else (and if we had the knowledge of what to change in the first place) then we would no longer be seeing the events that led to our present, and the knowledge would not be useful to us.

Alternately, if we did go back in the time with the mentality that "Hermes will cause all our present-day problems, so we should kill Hermes in the past to fix it", it would probably have to turn out that Hermes wasn't the problem after all and actually when Elidibus sent us to talk to him, he was unaware of the fact that shortly before the Final Days, Hermes was murdered by a mysterious assailant and someone else was elected to his position, and that person ended up being the one we were dealing with in the present day.

[Saraide]

It is doubtful that it would change anything relating to the first final days as by the time you get there, hermes had already sent out all the sisters. They had already found every dead planet. Even if you could have stopped the final days from ever starting, it would not have mattered for the timeline you came from. You would have just created an alternative timeline. Additionally, non of the other ancients would have allowed you to kill hermes. Doing that would also have doomed that timeline as his knowledge over the celestial currents allowed the ancients to shroud the planet with the help of zodiark.