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    Blueyes's Avatar
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    Blue Plenilune
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    If we broadly consider tanks as melee jobs and healers as ranged jobs, SE has consistently given us one of each type with every expansion. Even looking back at Heavensward, which had two ranged jobs, the job that came before was Ninja, and before that, Summoner. So in a sense, they've been alternating ever since ARR. Looking at those two categories, we've gone the longest without a new tank and a new magical ranged DPS. Anticipating one of each for 7.0 would be a safe bet, though it is worth noting that they may consider releasing two DPS jobs again. There was backlash last time they did that, but if they were to try again, now would be the time to do so while tanks and healers are "evenly distributed." Whether we get a new tank or a new melee DPS feels like a toss up, but a new magical ranged DPS should be a near certainty.

    I believe SE has given us some hints that point towards what could be the next caster. It's a job that SE has spoken about before. One that they originally wanted to release back in Stormblood, but didn't due to the demand for Red Mage. It was a far eastern mage, referred to as Mystic or Onmyoji. The job makes an appearance during the Bozja questline and was also involved in the 2022 Heavensturn event. There is also The Heroes' Gauntlet. Within that dungeon, each boss is associated with a job that (realistically) likely won't appear in as a job for players in FFXIV. Meanwhile, all standard enemies are named after existing jobs already found within the game... with one exception: Spectral Ink Mage. A very curious inclusion. It sounds like a placeholder name for something else, and it wouldn't be a stretch to draw a connection between that particular enemy and Onmyoji when you consider that we've seen a shikigami summoned from a painting during the previous Heavensturn event. What the job ultimately ends up being called remains to be seen, but considering SE has already expressed interest in the idea, this job seems very likely to appear in the near future.

    Personally, I'll continue to hope for Puppetmaster as a magical ranged job with the puppet as its main weapon much like Lulu from FFX.

    As for what the next tank could be, one could make an argument for Beastmaster, considering the job has appeared equipped with an axe and a shield. But unfortunately, I suspect that SE is more comfortable with adding non-pet-oriented jobs. In which case, there is another option for a tank that would fill a niche that is currently missing. Rune Knight (or Mystic Knight). Tanks are missing a job that utilizes elemental magic to a meaningful degree. Rune Knight could attract players who would like to play as a spell casting tank that isn't focused on light or dark elements.

    Regarding the next melee job, all signs point to a job that will share Scouting gear with Ninja, but what that job will be is currently a mystery. I can see a double-bladed sword user (like Zidane from FFIX) fitting into this role quite nicely. I see this inclusion being similar to Gunbreaker where the weapon is the selling point over the name of the job itself. There are several directions they could choose, though I'm personally fond of the Nightblade concept. It's a job that has appeared in Final Fantasy before, though not a common one. In the Mana series, it has ties to Ninja and Thief, making it appropriate as another Scouting job. In Brave Exvius, it uses debuffing slash attacks which is noteworthy when you consider that all of Zidane's weapons could apply negative status effects to enemies. I question whether SE would be willing to add a new DoT-based job, but at least there is a thematic similarity here.
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    Mugear_bahamut's Avatar
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    Hrothgar Lothbrok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blueyes View Post
    Within that dungeon, each boss is associated with a job that (realistically) likely won\\\\\\'t appear in as a job for players in FFXIV. Meanwhile, all standard enemies are named after existing jobs already found within the game... with one exception: Spectral Ink Mage. A very curious inclusion. It sounds like a placeholder name for something else, and it wouldn\\\\\\'t be a stretch to draw a connection between that particular enemy and Onmyoji when you consider that we\\\\\\'ve seen a shikigami summoned from a painting during the previous Heavensturn event. What the job ultimately ends up being called remains to be seen, but considering SE has already expressed interest in the idea, this job seems very likely to appear in the near future.
    They’re just regular arcanist jobs but they can’t use summoner as a name because primal summoning is specific to the Source.
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    TabrisOmbrelame's Avatar
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    Relnoria Thelysea
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Blueyes View Post
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    Some of the classes you mentionned aren't "named" after anything that exist, like Lulu from FFX, which is obviously a Black Mage, but her weapon can lead to other thing related to puppet just like you said, and I agree with all of this.

    Now for the upcoming job :

    We have to take into consideration that Tank/Healer/Melee/Ranged/Caster are all unique role.

    Today we got a 4/4/5/3/3 (Blue mage don't count, because of his limited nature).

    Let's see how classes were released from HW and after :

    HW : DRK/AST/MCH (Tank/Heal/Ranged)
    SB : SAM/RDM (Melee/Caster)
    ShB : GNB/DNC (Tank/Ranged)
    END : SGE/RPR (Healer/Melee)

    From what we see here it's quite easy to make some "logic deduction".

    First of all, The number of Ranged and Caster is the lowest, with 3 for each role against 5 for melee.

    Second, it's very unlikely that we got Healer's or Melee again (That would make absolutely no sense at all). We probably won't see a Tank again, at least for the next expansion, because they already struggle with Balance on them, they said it themselves.

    Which let us with only one option : Ranged + Caster

    YoshiP did say that he wants "Original" Job to come out into the game. Things that we've never seen before. For exemple, the "Onmyoji" or Mystic like some people like to call it, could be something never seen before (Or not exactly common in other MMORPG). What the Onmyoji make me feel like, is the Warlock from Blade and Soul because of all the "Talisman" used with their attacks. This is a class that has a high possibility to see the day.

    As for the Ranged, I honestly have no clue on what it could be. I did theorize something in my precedent post, but it's not based on anything that the game "tease". We have Bow, Firearms,and Chakram. One obvious choice would be Crossbow, but I think it's too obvious to actually be that... And i'm not talking about how it's not really original at all.
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