They either need to incentivize regular trials somehow or add Trust/Duty Support them

[Deveryn]

From the March LL

"As a note, 8-player trials that appear post-Heavensward will be addressed in Patch 7.0 or later. In Endwalker, we were able to determine that Trusts can be used for 8-player trials; however, since the process of adjusting the mechanics accordingly requires a lot of development cost, we would first like to address dungeons, as there are many of those."

[Atelier-Bagur]

Its a bummer trial roulette dont give out much exp but I guess you get more gil and tomestones out of a duty that usually takes 10 or so minutes to complete depending on what it is.

[Payadopa]

There are just too many trials in this game and they require too many people.

And they got more difficult.

You do them once for completion, barely learned any mechanics and then it pops again 6 months later in roulette and it's a wipefest again.

Why bother with that roulette anymore? The rewards are way too bad for the 30 minutes wipefest which you will likely end in.

There needs to be a better reward so people actually farm the normal trials and learn the mechanics. And / or they should be changed into 4 man content so the roulette can fill the content faster.

That is like the complete opposite from my experience. If anything they are way, way too easy and over within 30 seconds to a minute. That would absolutely pull me out of the experience. Like, Thordan is supposed to be the big bad in HW only to die within 30 seconds. It's just sad.

[NekoMataMata]

That is like the complete opposite from my experience. If anything they are way, way too easy and over within 30 seconds to a minute. That would absolutely pull me out of the experience. Like, Thordan is supposed to be the big bad in HW only to die within 30 seconds. It's just sad.

You're only thinking about the older ones here though(your main class says level 67 conjurer though, so makes sense). The older non-ilvl sync'd trails are basically super nerfed at this point. Especially for HW and ARR since the style of playing back then was also different.

You might not see all of the mechanics but trials around level 70 usually take a while.

[Avoidy]

God, I wish trials/normal raid/50607080 roulette gave exp on par with leveling roulette. or failing that, I wish the exp gain were even noteworthy.

[Payadopa]

You're only thinking about the older ones here though(your main class says level 67 conjurer though, so makes sense). The older non-ilvl sync'd trails are basically super nerfed at this point. Especially for HW and ARR since the style of playing back then was also different.

You might not see all of the mechanics but trials around level 70 usually take a while.

The normal trials are neither hard nor a wipe fest. They don't take long and I therefore don't need an EXP increase. Also, CNJ? lol

[magitekLuna]

they need to do it for ALL old content , doing some older raids now (eden) and its ungodly bad, each part takes like 30m-1h+ to get in. how can they "fix" this problem? for starters update the drop to a new token system where you can get relevant crafting mats to the patch we are in. BUT its the main thing this devs failed from day 1. make content relevant past the "i got my glam from it". as long as you don't add new things to it why will people do it later?

[Deveryn]

they need to do it for ALL old content , doing some older raids now (eden) and its ungodly bad, each part takes like 30m-1h+ to get in. how can they "fix" this problem? for starters update the drop to a new token system where you can get relevant crafting mats to the patch we are in. BUT its the main thing this devs failed from day 1. make content relevant past the "i got my glam from it". as long as you don't add new things to it why will people do it later?

Raids are optional, so they're not a big focus. There's always some reason to go back at some point, whether it's a relic or moogle tomes. Some people just enjoy the fights. There's very little that's ever irrelevant or left out of the rotation. If queue times are a problem, try figuring out the best time to queue.

Why would they add a new currency for crafting mats? Just run your roulettes at 90 and other 90 content.

[LaylaTsarra]

Raids are optional, so they're not a big focus. There's always some reason to go back at some point, whether it's a relic or moogle tomes. Some people just enjoy the fights. There's very little that's ever irrelevant or left out of the rotation. If queue times are a problem, try figuring out the best time to queue.

Why would they add a new currency for crafting mats? Just run your roulettes at 90 and other 90 content.

Trials that are part of the MSQ's are not optional content and those could and should be included in Duty Support in my opinion. Other trials certainly not.

[Deveryn]

Trials that are part of the MSQ's are not optional content and those could and should be included in Duty Support in my opinion. Other trials certainly not.

Yep. I already addressed that. They're planning to add Duty Support.