Allow us to obtain the refund when relinquishing land

[Skivvy]

So this is my very first necropost in ALL of my gaming history. 7 years old! Go big or go home!

Now with that out of the way, I think maybe it's time for SE to take a look at this idea. As it is now, demolitions have been on hold for a lengthy amount of time. I have a house that I currently want to be rid of, but I also want to be able to get some of my gil back on it, and unfortunately it seems like housing demolition isn't going to be turned back on anytime soon.

I know previously people were concerned with players possibly double-dipping if they were to sell the house AND be able to reclaim 80% of their gil, but with the addition of the lottery system, that seems to have eliminated any possibility of that happening. Thoughts?

[Jojoya]

So this is my very first necropost in ALL of my gaming history. 7 years old! Go big or go home!

Now with that out of the way, I think maybe it's time for SE to take a look at this idea. As it is now, demolitions have been on hold for a lengthy amount of time. I have a house that I currently want to be rid of, but I also want to be able to get some of my gil back on it, and unfortunately it seems like housing demolition isn't going to be turned back on anytime soon.

I know previously people were concerned with players possibly double-dipping if they were to sell the house AND be able to reclaim 80% of their gil, but with the addition of the lottery system, that seems to have eliminated any possibility of that happening. Thoughts?

Gil is too easy to make. If I didn't want my house anymore, I'd just relinquish it and be done. I don't need to get any of my gil back - I already have far more gil now than I had at the time I originally purchased my house.

But that's true for me. I can't say that would hold true for players who have a hard time making gil.

I still think it's silly to hang onto something you no longer care about just because the original seller (the game in this case) won't give you a partial refund. It's part of why I think there should be a monthly gil fee for retaining a house, as unpopular as that idea is. It puts the situation into better perspective and makes it easier for people to give up the house when they no longer want it.

[Skivvy]

Gil is too easy to make. If I didn't want my house anymore, I'd just relinquish it and be done. I don't need to get any of my gil back - I already have far more gil now than I had at the time I originally purchased my house.

But that's true for me. I can't say that would hold true for players who have a hard time making gil.

I still think it's silly to hang onto something you no longer care about just because the original seller (the game in this case) won't give you a partial refund. It's part of why I think there should be a monthly gil fee for retaining a house, as unpopular as that idea is. It puts the situation into better perspective and makes it easier for people to give up the house when they no longer want it.

I don't have a hard time making gil, however, I still don't see why you should have to forfeit an 80% refund when you are voluntarily giving it up instead of waiting for a demolition timer to boot you out. Honestly, it seems a bit backwards at this point. I can understand why they may not have wanted to have that as an option back when houses could be instantly repurchased, but those days are long gone.

[Jojoya]

I don't have a hard time making gil, however, I still don't see why you should have to forfeit an 80% refund when you are voluntarily giving it up instead of waiting for a demolition timer to boot you out. Honestly, it seems a bit backwards at this point. I can understand why they may not have wanted to have that as an option back when houses could be instantly repurchased, but those days are long gone.

It's one of those situations where I don't agree on one hand but taking other things into account need to agree on the other.

I don't think the refund should exist even for demolition. The player had use of the house for whatever period of time so shouldn't need one.

But... I understand the refund is there to ease the pain of those players who had their house demo for reasons outside of their control. If SE is going to refund players who lose their house because they've stopped using it for whatever reason then players who want to voluntarily give up their house should get the same refund.

Back to the broken record of "if SE had only chosen to use a good instanced system in the first place, we wouldn't need to have these discussions".

The system was poorly thought out by SE from the start, beginning with their puzzling idea that only FCs would have an interest in getting a house when most of the other MMOs with housing at the time showed that the majority of demand was for personal housing. As much as I want to think SE will go back and revamp the housing system so every player can get a house of their choosing, I doubt it's going to happen at this point in the game's life cycle.

So what becomes the fair way to charge and compensate players for purchase and for relinquishing (voluntary or not). If we're just going to make a habit of refunding almost all gil to the buyer when they no longer have the plot, there's little point in charging for it in the first place.