Quote Originally Posted by Causante View Post
It's not about the characterization of the ancients, I think most people liked how they were depicted (myself included), what I'm refering to when I cite the events in endwalker is how they were judged. The way things happen in this expansion kinda leans on the idea that they deserved their fate, if you take into account Hermes and Venat's choices (specially the metaphorical sundering cutscene).

We already knew they were going to die, I think no one expected/wanted to save the ancients or contest the fall of their civilization going into endwalker, but when you throw time travel, a deus ex machina(dynamis/kairos) and a "they were doomed to fail anyway" (sundering) into the mix, it becomes a lot harder to reason with their demise.
Idk there seems to be quite a few people who wanted the wol to stop venat and side withe the ancients... joking aside i always thought of it like Alexander, it was always gonna happen, but now we know how it happened and the loops closed.