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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    I think this speaks for itself.
    I think we...might be interpreting this differently?

    The post of mine you quoted, I was pointing out one of the problems of this topic is the RAMPANT HYPERBOLE. People saying they just press 1 button for entire fights.

    The image you linked shows that their most pressed button is less than half of their button presses. A bit less than 9 in 20, actually (43.99% < 45%, which would be 9 out of 20). Meaning they press other buttons as more than half of their button presses.

    I don't DISagree that that's still a lot, and Glare 3 should be closer to 20-25% instead of 44%, but 44% is alsy <<< 99% or 100%. That's the hyperbole I was addressing. And yes, that image DOES speak for itself: Disproving the "All we do is spam one button" once and for all. Which was...kinda my point? o.O

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    Quote Originally Posted by T-Owl View Post
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    Dude, YOU are literally gaslighting people instead of making arguments and call other people toxic.

    Seriously, I'm not trying to "I know you are but what am I?" here with you, but you're actually doing the thing you're accusing me of.

    UNLIKE your accusation, I've been consistent about making arguments. And I even offered you an olive branch and YOU are the one being toxic and gaslighting by rejecting it so you can continue on your toxic rampage.

    While saying I'm gaslighting and not making arguments, what are you doing? You're not making a single argument and you go into a gaslighting spree, calling me...let's see..."gaslighting", an "online abuser", who needs "self-improvement", sidelong saying I'm not a good/optimized player/lack skill, "prefer entitlement", LIE ABOUT MY ARGUMENT (I literally said MULTIPLE TIMES that I think healers SHOULD change and here you gaslight by saying my argument is I "don't want healers to change"? Like what in the ACTUAL hell? That's the EXACT OPPOSITE of what I've said...), who thinks pressing more than 1 button is "too stressful" (when I've ACTIVELY argued for other buttons to press - seriously, did you even READ my posts before going on the warpath?? If you didn't, it would explain your lying and bad faith gaslighting...), trying to "make people engage in doublethink", engaging in an "abuse tactic", and who isn't "the nice guy" despite me trying to reach out to you in kindness.

    You're not calling out an online abuser: You ARE the online abuser.

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    I think I'm just going to try to ignore you going forward because HOLY HELL you are a toxic, abusive personality.
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    Last edited by Renathras; 09-21-2022 at 07:53 AM. Reason: Marked with EDIT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renathras View Post
    I think we...might be interpreting this differently?

    The post of mine you quoted, I was pointing out one of the problems of this topic is the RAMPANT HYPERBOLE. People saying they just press 1 button for entire fights.

    The image you linked shows that their most pressed button is less than half of their button presses. A bit less than 9 in 20, actually (43.99% < 45%, which would be 9 out of 20). Meaning they press other buttons as more than half of their button presses.

    I don't DISagree that that's still a lot, and Glare 3 should be closer to 20-25% instead of 44%, but 44% is alsy <<< 99% or 100%. That's the hyperbole I was addressing. And yes, that image DOES speak for itself: Disproving the "All we do is spam one button" once and for all. Which was...kinda my point? o.O
    https://imgur.com/a/A5R8H3k

    Is this a better example, 99% uptime 78% of casts were broil the rest were either biolysis or energy drain with like 1 cast of ruin 2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Supersnow845 View Post
    https://imgur.com/a/A5R8H3k

    Is this a better example, 99% uptime 78% of casts were broil the rest were either biolysis or energy drain with like 1 cast of ruin 2
    You need to check the overall casts, not just the damage ones.


    But even with the log I posted you need to keep in mind that it was about as unoptimized as you can get, multiple raises, Cure II/III and Medica II hardcasts, probably more than necessary even with the deaths. In any normal run that doesn't turn into chaos those would've been Glare as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    You need to check the overall casts, not just the damage ones.


    But even with the log I posted you need to keep in mind that it was about as unoptimized as you can get, multiple raises, Cure II/III and Medica II hardcasts, probably more than necessary even with the deaths. In any normal run that doesn't turn into chaos those would've been Glare as well.
    I only included damage because she never cast succor nor adlo, her damage casts=her total casts
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