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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post

    That won't stop RMT.

    It also has the possibility to bring the same problems that WoW has thanks to the unrestricted use of the WoW token into this game. I don't think that's a mistake SE wants to repeat.
    It will definitely stop a huge part of RMT with gil if you can purchase it straight from the game developers in game like other games have been doing. It's also safe and prevents scammers from frauding others. This method helps resolve multiple issues. Just like I mentioned above how the lottery system helped resolve a lot of other issues. It helped definitely slow that or halt the black market for sure. So ya I'm all for stopping the black market by coming up with inventive ways to filter more of that out and still be able to allow something safe for all gamers to take part it. Microtransactions aren't bad and it's way safer in my opinion. Plus it all helps fund the game more instead of SE increasing our monthly subscription for so many things we ask them for that costs them more money. If you don't like it then you don't have to purchase any microtransactions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post

    Nope. Someone wants an account, they can make a new account. Let's not open the game to official selling of accounts on eBay (though it's already being done of course).

    For someone who claims to want to stop RMT, you certainly seem determined to increase it.
    Playstation and Xbox allow you to change your gamertag for a fee and other gaming developers allow that freedom to easily make changes to your account. I'm all about keeping people safe that is my goal here. Accounts will still be sold regardless so why not help prevent scammers and shut them down and cripple their black market by changing things up in their world to inconvenience them? You seem so quick to say no to everything when in reality this will help solve several things. If I move from one country to another I want to be able to change my region on my own. If I get to become an older age and no longer want to play this game I want to be able to pass down my account to one of my children so they can play and have it as their own. What is so wrong about that? If someone's account keeps getting compromised and they had a one time passcode set yet SE support had it easily removed, then I'd want the ability to change my username and information to better shield myself and to put a stop to that compromise for good. These are safe guards we need in place. Again if you don't like change it's your choice not to partake in it. But don't ruin it for others who may want to have it as an option later on down the road for them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seminole View Post
    It will definitely stop a huge part of RMT with gil if you can purchase it straight from the game developers in game like other games have been doing. It's also safe and prevents scammers from frauding others. This method helps resolve multiple issues. Just like I mentioned above how the lottery system helped resolve a lot of other issues. It helped definitely slow that or halt the black market for sure. So ya I'm all for stopping the black market by coming up with inventive ways to filter more of that out and still be able to allow something safe for all gamers to take part it. Microtransactions aren't bad and it's way safer in my opinion. Plus it all helps fund the game more instead of SE increasing our monthly subscription for so many things we ask them for that costs them more money. If you don't like it then you don't have to purchase any microtransactions.
    First, stop bolding everything, there is no need to shout at us. We understand what you're saying, we just think you're wrong.

    Second, RMT and black market will not stop. Look at WoW, RMT alive and well still despite the token. Don't like it don't buy it wouldn't help, either. It makes it so gil is P2W if you have the money to buy it straight from SE. Everyone is affected whether or not we participate in buying gil.
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    Don't you have something better to do with your life?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seminole View Post
    It will definitely stop a huge part of RMT with gil if you can purchase it straight from the game developers in game like other games have been doing. It's also safe and prevents scammers from frauding others. This method helps resolve multiple issues. Just like I mentioned above how the lottery system helped resolve a lot of other issues. It helped definitely slow that or halt the black market for sure. So ya I'm all for stopping the black market by coming up with inventive ways to filter more of that out and still be able to allow something safe for all gamers to take part it. Microtransactions aren't bad and it's way safer in my opinion. Plus it all helps fund the game more instead of SE increasing our monthly subscription for so many things we ask them for that costs them more money. If you don't like it then you don't have to purchase any microtransactions.
    No, it does not.

    Again, see WoW.

    You're making guesses about how you think something might turn out without looking at the examples of those places where it's been tried and failed.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seminole View Post
    Playstation and Xbox allow you to change your gamertag for a fee and other gaming developers allow that freedom to easily make changes to your account. I'm all about keeping people safe that is my goal here. Accounts will still be sold regardless so why not help prevent scammers and shut them down and cripple their black market by changing things up in their world to inconvenience them? You seem so quick to say no to everything when in reality this will help solve several things. If I move from one country to another I want to be able to change my region on my own. If I get to become an older age and no longer want to play this game I want to be able to pass down my account to one of my children so they can play and have it as their own. What is so wrong about that? If someone's account keeps getting compromised and they had a one time passcode set yet SE support had it easily removed, then I'd want the ability to change my username and information to better shield myself and to put a stop to that compromise for good. These are safe guards we need in place. Again if you don't like change it's your choice not to partake in it. But don't ruin it for others who may want to have it as an option later on down the road for them.
    Changing a gamertag isn't the same is changing personal identification information.

    User License agreements point out that you do not own the game, that a license has been granted to you to use the game service. If you want your child to have the game service, in most cases you need to purchase them a separate license. There is no right to transfer ownership of it unless the child that the license was purchased for has become an adult and ownership of the account is being officially transferred to the now adult from the parent/guardian's name. You don't get to pass off a game to your children just because you no longer want to play.

    Game companies are not going to allow transfer of license rights when that is going to cut into the income they receive from selling the license rights in the first place.

    Go ahead and keep shouting to try to get people to agree with you. It's not going to change how companies choose to do business, and it's going to make more people ignore you than give your opinions any consideration.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 09-20-2022 at 06:06 AM.

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    Yeah, being wrong in bold isnt going to change any opinions. At most its going to get people to stop reading what you have to say. I know i started skimming rather then reading after a few lines. And it has been proven in other games that adding an official gold sales channel doesnt end illegal ones. At most it gets them to lower their prices and diversify more into other "services".
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    Op sounds like they actually like RMT.

    No to P2W for the reasons stated by others and no to many other things such as reselling houses on the MB as nothing would prevent people on agreeing on another consideration to be paid separately by other means. It’d be RMT paradise.

    This part in particular is completely ludicrous and made me spit my coffee:
    Quote Originally Posted by Seminole View Post

    10. One Time passcodes should only be allowed to be set with a notary. They should not be allowed to be deleted without a notary from the true owner of the account. What is the point of adding a one time passcode when a scammer who knows some information on you can create a support ticket that you have no knowledge about as the system doesn’t email the email address on the mogstation account saying a ticket was created on behalf of your account. Was this you? Then the scammer removes the one time passcode so they can then get into your account to do damage. This will help prevent people’s accounts from being compromised. So, it’s best everyone gets a one time passcode on their account. If you choose not to then yes, you risk your account being vulnerable. If you are the true owner of an account with your true information on the account then by adding a one time passcode, your account should never be compromised as a one time passcode shouldn’t be easy to be removed by SE support.
    A notary? Lol like I’d make an appointment, fill forms, provide various official ID documents and pay several hundreds $ (That’s what it would cost here) to get a one time password for a $60 game. Then do it again to delete the PW??? I use notaries pretty much exclusively to prepare property deeds and wills, not some $60 bs.

    And let’s not even get into jurisdictional issues and other technicalities as well as the fact that there aren’t notaries everywhere and that “notary” doesn’t quite mean the same thing everywhere (sounds like you are more talking about what we call here a commissioner for oaths but it is still ridiculous). I bet SE would also “love” the extra administration and the multi jurisdiction bs. Anyway thank you for the laugh.
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    Last edited by Toutatis; 09-27-2022 at 09:24 PM.

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