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  1. #121
    Player Hurlstone's Avatar
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    Valamist Hurlstone
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    The OP certainly seems to have a grudge against Y’shtola. Shame, outside of her habit of throwing herself into the life stream I think she is an awesome character. I like how the game does not stereotype much of its cast by their gender in the way some RPG games do, like how in the twins its the boy who is the healer/more intellectual of the pair, whilst the girl is the more hot-headed frontline fighter. It should be noted that whilst they may not be popular with the OP and others, overall the playerbase seems to have embraced them. I am not saying that we should not have like, sexy seductress characters or muscle bound hunks (What about a seductive sexy guy?) more variety in character is always a boon, and we will likely be seeing more of that in 7.0, but thats the default for so many games and I think it would be a shame, and unnecessary, to try and make FFXIV fit such a mould when instead it could do its own thing.
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    Last edited by Hurlstone; 09-20-2022 at 12:51 AM.

  2. #122
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    Lauront's Avatar
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    Tristain Archambeau
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thenightvortex View Post
    I don’t think liking traditional gender presentation has to do with forcing everyone to fit this mold or thinking that there are things men and women can’t be. It’s about personal enjoyment of an aesthetic in the game and/or irl. I prefer seeing characters who to an extent correspond with their gender role/presentation(without getting into extremes, of course), but I won’t hate a character for straying away from this particular way.

    I think most people still enjoy traditional masculinity in men and femininity and women, it doesn’t seem like it will change drastically soon.



    Well, good luck with making that happen. Telling people they “should” be in a minority for their tastes comes off as very rude.
    Seconded on the above.
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  3. #123
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Quote Originally Posted by VictorTheed View Post
    I'd rather him have revived Milfilia, I mean Minfilia.
    Always disappointed me they killed off Minfilia. Character got robbed big time.
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  4. #124
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Always disappointed me they killed off Minfilia. Character got robbed big time.
    But everyone hated minfilia and said she had no character....
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  5. #125
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    Fenris Pendragon
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Always disappointed me they killed off Minfilia. Character got robbed big time.
    Having her defect to team Zodiark after she was manipulated by Hydaelyn would've served to make her more compelling, sadly such ideas don't seem to even be anywhere on the radar of the writing team.
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  6. #126
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Having her defect to team Zodiark after she was manipulated by Hydaelyn would've served to make her more compelling, sadly such ideas don't seem to even be anywhere on the radar of the writing team.
    The real problem was zodiark was a 3 so he couldn't talk to minfilia.
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  7. #127
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    But everyone hated minfilia and said she had no character....
    Disagree. Especially given her prominence in 1.0 if one knows where to look.

    They really got into a habit of killing off some of their characters in Realm Reborn. Minfilia and Moenbryda among these.
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  8. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Disagree. Especially given her prominence in 1.0 if one knows where to look.

    They really got into a habit of killing off some of their characters in Realm Reborn. Minfilia and Moenbryda among these.
    The forums were full of people making threads on how much they disliked minfilia during 2.0.
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  9. #129
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    The real problem was zodiark was a 3 so he couldn't talk to minfilia.
    Almost chokes on their soda from laughing so hard

    Holy crap.
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  10. #130
    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Bastilaa Shan
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    The forums were full of people making threads on how much they disliked minfilia during 2.0.
    You should know by now that this forum you and I included are just a vocal minority.

    Minfilia's role became being used by Venat and giving birth to a new character in Ryne.

    I like Ryne but also feel that Minfilia was done a disservice.

    With teleportation magic there were clear consequences with Minfilia but it seems Yshtola is immune to these.

    Falls back on the writing team. It's disappointing but here we are.
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