What Zero Could've Been

[SentioftheHoukai]

To be fair the thread was flawed from the start. This is talking about how a character whose arc is only just starting and we barely even know could have been a completely different character instead. What is there to even discuss?
Not to mention that "evil women gets a pass if they're hot" and "Y'shtola isn't attractive enough to shit on Magnai" are takes so bizarre it didn't do the already controversial OP any favor.

Funny how often people forget just how unlike their wild headcanons Magnai actually acted in the narrative. He didn't even hit on Y'shtola, poor man's literally desperate to find his soul mate and acted more like a child with a crush in the "Little Sun" scene than the Nice Guys/Incels that some people seem to see lurking behind every shadow and door. So honestly, yeah I'd argue that while mildly amusing a scene it may have been Magnai wasn't exactly an ideal, dickish target.

[Thenightvortex]

Magnai needs some love.

People here talk about how hot a woman must be talk down on a man, but the man in question can accept rejection and does not push himself on others, why talk down on him at all instead of just politely saying no?

[Jettinson]

Because the whole stick is that Y'shtola is acting like her master Matoya, someone who isn't afraid to talk back and be rough with words.

Add how she was so done with the whole thing with the xaelas' battle requests.


Wait i thought this was about Zero even though her story isn't even done so the thread is pointless

Oh....

[Zordrage]

Everyone overanalising the whole "Little Sun" thing... and here i am thinking it was just a nice little funny joke devs put in the game for the lols

[Layte_Aeon]

It's really her calling him childish, nothing more to it.

[Aexnidaral]

It feels weird to title a thread "What Zero Could Have Been" when her story isn't even closed to finished -- she's just been introduced, so we don't really know what she really is. Feels like putting the cart before the horse in terms of criticism.

[TsuchinokoPanda]

Doubtless the above poster is a fan of men like G'raha Tia or worse yet, the twins. In any case I don't see why FFXIV should cater to such niche tastes for both genders.

Because your sexist tastes are in the minority. Of my few interactions with you I've tried to be understanding and weigh your points against my personal opinions and preferences, but now you're just being insufferable. Just stop playing this game dude, you're clearly miserable.

[Thenightvortex]

Because your sexist tastes are in the minority. Of my few interactions with you I've tried to be understanding and weigh your points against my personal opinions and preferences, but now you're just being insufferable. Just stop playing this game dude, you're clearly miserable.

People who like traditional gender presentation are in the minority?

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[Zanarkand-Ronso]

People who like traditional gender presentation are in the minority?

Press X to doubt.

Its...kind of hard to say nowadays. Everyone is different, and our overall Culture shifts constantly.
Like Im someone who hates Traditional Gender Representation myself, I think its dated, and in some cases sexist, and harmful.
I think a woman can be tough and dont need to be pretty lil flowers in a dress.
And I think Men can be Gentle and nurturing.

[Tsiron]

People who like traditional gender presentation are in the minority?

Press X to doubt.

They should be.