Endwalker's Graha Tia: A Character Rewrite

[AwesomeJr44]

Yeah of course. I was curious of what you thought needed to improve about him, which is why I started to read it. But reading more just made me upset because it was far beyond what I love about him as a character officially.

I don't mean to use the 'you have to read till the end to criticize something' card as I'm not usually a fan of that, but you've only read the parts where he's not really too involved. You've read the set up but not the payoff. It's fine if you don't like it, but I don't think it's really fair to say that he's "far beyond what I love about him as a character officially" when he hasn't really been a part of the story just yet. In addition, you mentioned an echo vision about Graha? That doesn't happen until the mid-section of the rewrite, (which you didn't get to as that would invalidate your critique about Graha not being present) and we contact him through the use of linkpearls until he rejoins us in 5.5. I'd recommend reading it through again, I think it might be possible that you didn't read it thoroughly.

Again, it's fine if you don't like it, I honestly didn't think you would, but I think that if you're going to critique it, you should give at least the sections you did get through so far a more thorough read.

Like I said, everyone has their own taste. Not everyone is gonna like the official version of a character, but there are some who do. Which is what I wish people would consider when they go around on forum bashing the character in threads that don't even mention him at first.

My focus was less on subjective tastes and more on making Graha an objectively better character. Now that's not to say you're not allowed to dislike this new version as you are entitled to your own opinion and taste, but my goal was never to stay 100% true to the character as his current character is what's wrong with him. My goal was to improve him on an objective level by making him a deeper and evolving character, rather than a static and stagnant one.

lbut I don't go around saying they're bad characters for the things they did ike what other groups seem to do about Hydaelyn 90% of the time in every single post...

There's a big difference between calling a character out for their actions thus stating that character asmorally good or evil and then saying that a character is good or bad.
Graha is a morally good character. Emet is a morally gray character. Zenos is a morally evil character.
Graha is a bad character. Emet is a great character. Zenos is a mediocre character.

But if you wanna talk about Hydaelyn seeing as you brought it up, in my personal opinion, Hydaelyn isn't a bad character... as an antagonist. If Hydaelyn was written very similarly to how she was in the official story, but portrayed in a different light, I don't think most of the anti-Hydaelyn people would hate her as much as they do. This is because she has a very good character... but again, for an antagonist. The problem is that the story itself bends over backwards to make her the hero. Hearing about how great Hydaelyn is when we just saw her commit a act of great evil is not something that makes her likeable, but rather, hateable. It's the same reason why Hermes isn't likeable. Hermes is a man who unleashed great evil upon the universe, and upon discovering that he did, he endorses it. Now unlike Hydaelyn, the story allows Hermes to be a villain, which makes him a better character, but not more likeable, which isn't a problem as not every villain needs to be likeable.

(The following is from after I saw Kazemon's responses to everyone else)

Anyway, I'm done. This thread is for OP's fanfic, so if you want to make another thread about G'raha dislike, label it accordingly, say your peace with like minded people and others will stay clear.

What do you mean? This isn't a Graha dislike thread, it's a rewrite thread. A rewrite you never read if I had to wager. You got basic details about it wrong. There were a grand total of zero echo visions in the patch quest rewrites. Just linkpearl conversations. Come on Kazemon, I knew you wouldn't like the thread, but can you be anymore dishonest? You know this was a rewrite. You just didn't like it and now apparently it's a 'dislike thread'.

Apparently writing a rewrite for a character you don't particular like too much is making a 'dislike thread'. Good grief.

No, I was telling the other guy to make his own thread about G'raha dislike if he wants to continue it, not stink up your thread with it. I'm sorry if that didn't come across well.

It didn't but thank you for clarifying.