Female Hrothgar as a playable race. Show your support!

[Pip_Chick]

'Some may think, “Won’t only a few people play as female Hrothgar?” but my concerns aren’t really about whether female Hrothgar will become as popular as other races.'

This quote indicates the idea of Miqo'te 2.0 has been given the boot. Thank GOD

I really, really, REALLY hope you are right and they will look like a good counterpart for the males!

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

'Some may think, “Won’t only a few people play as female Hrothgar?” but my concerns aren’t really about whether female Hrothgar will become as popular as other races.'

This line of Dialouge is both the Correct Mindset, and a consistent one.
People like Beast Races, but they are never the popular or mainstream option. A human/humanoid will always be more popular
But thats no reason to robe other people a different options outside the usual norm.

If popularity WAS a concern...you wouldnt make a beastrace to begin with. But by making one, you open your market and demographic.

[Midareyukki]

And besides, how could anyone know that fem Viera would be super-popular before they knew what they would look like?

Simple! Viera have been around since Tactics Advance, though arguably it was FF12 with Fran that really put them in the limelight. Viera as a whole have gotten a lot of popularity as a race within the series, but it wasn't until Yoshida unveiled concept art to integrate them into the game back in Heavensward that the race got traction and popularity within this community. Since then you had people asking for Viera, coming up with their own concept for Viera. Reddit had a post about how cool Viera would be if implemented almost monthly, and people always brought up the concept they had for males, which the franchise never featured. It was only when the Ivalice Alliance raids showed up and the Fran teased that that fan outcry boomed.

As for Hrothgar, first of all, I want to make it clear that they do have some disparity between the FF14 version and the FF10 Ronso. It's minor, but it's there. Again: you can make Fran on your own, but you cannot make Kimahri. Apart from that, Ronso only were featured in FF10 and its sequel. So Hrothgar really did come out of left field, as people who asked for Ronso to be implemented were few and far-between. Even if they were adamant about wanting it in, they weren't posting about it every other month. So when they were unveiled, it came as a surprise. For some it was a pleasant surprise, as they enjoyed Ronso or finally had a bestial race. For others, it was rather unpleasant because it meant Square wasn't adding males anytime soon, and it led to... shall we call it "issues"?

So we knew what Viera looked like, and though the males we now have don't match their original concept art, we did have a notion of what to expect with the discarded concept.
For Hrothgar, we have absolutely no idea. Female Ronsos exist in 10, but they were just background figures. A playable one with customization likely will require a lot more detail than what we were given.

[Allegor]

To be fair, we do have a loose idea: both in the murals in Bozja and that pic of a Miqo'te Gunnhildr(?) from that one artbook, but one could argue both depictions were made before it was confirmed female Hrothgars would actually be made, and shouldn't be taken at face value.

[CidHeiral]

As for Hrothgar, first of all, I want to make it clear that they do have some disparity between the FF14 version and the FF10 Ronso. It's minor, but it's there.

I would say the difference is pretty pronounced. If they were close to Kimahri I'd be playing one right now, lol.

Kimahri is muscular but relatively lean compared to his height. His build is evenly proportioned and he stands completely upright.



Hrothgar meanwhile are extremely wide and top heavy with tiny heads. They look stumpy which is further emphasized by their bent legs and hunched over posture. They're more like a WoW Orc in a cat mask than an FFX Ronso. Although ironically WoW actually gives players the option to fix Orc posture if they want to.





By comparison, to Midare's point, Viera were pretty much exactly what everyone expected them to be. Their appearance has varied very little since their inception and the FFXIV version is a carbon copy of Fran which is an extremely popular character. So it was practically a given they were going to be mega popular before the devs ever started working on them.

[Midareyukki]

Hrothgar meanwhile are extremely wide and top heavy with tiny heads. They look stumpy which is further emphasized by their bent legs and hunched over posture. They're more like a WoW Orc in a cat mask than an FFX Ronso. Although ironically WoW actually gives players the option to fix Orc posture if they want to.

I think Face 4 would be better to compare to Kimahri, as that one has a large horn in its forehead. But the horn is unbroken, the face looks too pudgy and the hair has absolutely no similarity to Kimahri. And, yeah, Kimahri actually can stand up straight rather than looking like he has to go to the toilet every ten seconds.

...also

Although ironically WoW actually gives players the option to fix Orc posture if they want to.

they have that?


Yoshida, you play that darn game, what the actual [expletives that might get me permanently banned!]????

[CidHeiral]

they have that?

Yup. You can even turn it off and on at the barber.

[Vahlnir]

Yup. You can even turn it off and on at the barber.

The barbers in WoW are impressive. Hair stylists, chiropractors, ophthalmologists and they can even perform sex changes. They are also tattoo artists. FF XIV could learn a thing or two. To be fair though, it took WoW many years to make them so expansive.

[Soge01]

Yup. You can even turn it off and on at the barber.

Which is something Hrothgar needs. Not all of us want the hunched look. Especiallly when it messes up certain glams.

[Gullis]

A non hunch option would be a blessing, but at the same times, these are the devs that needed a whole patch cycle to figure out how to add back ears on the new hair so...