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  1. #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    I agree with most everything else you said, except for this. Time gating is exactly what it is. Is it effective at being a time gate for anyone wanting or willing to brute force the grind? Nope, not really. But it's a time gate all the same. It is very clearly intended to slow people down. I'd be very surprised if there was another explanation at the core of its design. I've been around the block way more than once. I know a time gate when I see it.
    Maybe a time gate to those who don't want to learn the workshop and just throw anything on it? It's hardly one to those that learn it and use the patterns to their advantage. Like I said, been clearing 20k a week in it with just 5 days. It's not hard or difficult at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valfreyja View Post
    Maybe a time gate to those who don't want to learn the workshop and just throw anything on it? It's hardly one to those that learn it and use the patterns to their advantage. Like I said, been clearing 20k a week in it with just 5 days. It's not hard or difficult at all.
    But it's still a time gate. That is my entire point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
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    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    But it's still a time gate. That is my entire point.
    But I mean...who cares? Nothing in ANY video game comes instantly. So why would anyone honestly expect this to be instant? It's just ridiculous.

    You want Savage gear. You put in the time and effort for it.
    You want Tomestone gear. You put in the time and effort for it.
    You want this Island vendor stuff. You put in the time and effort for it.

    It's just dumb labeling stuff as a time gate, when literally 100% of the game is time gated. It becomes meaningless at that point.

    Just call it what it really is. People thought "relaxed" meant that SE was just gonna dump a bunch of freebies on them, and they wouldn't have to make any effort towards getting it. Now that they see, yes you actually have to play the game (the shock, the horror) to get these items. So they bash the content because they are lazy.
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  4. #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valfreyja View Post
    But I mean...who cares? Nothing in ANY video game comes instantly. So why would anyone honestly expect this to be instant? It's just ridiculous.

    You want Savage gear. You put in the time and effort for it.
    You want Tomestone gear. You put in the time and effort for it.
    You want this Island vendor stuff. You put in the time and effort for it.

    It's just dumb labeling stuff as a time gate, when literally 100% of the game is time gated. It becomes meaningless at that point.

    Just call it what it really is. People thought "relaxed" meant that SE was just gonna dump a bunch of freebies on them, and they wouldn't have to make any effort towards getting it. Now that they see, yes you actually have to play the game (the shock, the horror) to get these items. So they bash the content because they are lazy.
    I am calling it what it really is. A time gate. Not bashing it or anything, just making an observation. Time gates are an inevitable part of MMO gaming. You seem to have a problem with acknowledging this particular thing and I'm not sure why since you are okay with saying that everything else is time gated. lol No need to dance around it or deflect. It simply...is, for better or worse depending on the person.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 09-17-2022 at 10:42 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

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    Laughing at these people saying Island Sanctuary is timegated when it took most people like 2 weeks to unlock everything. Meanwhile Doman Restoration is literally 3+ months for what is essentially one glamour chestpiece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raim View Post
    Laughing at these people saying Island Sanctuary is timegated when it took most people like 2 weeks to unlock everything. Meanwhile Doman Restoration is literally 3+ months for what is essentially one glamour chestpiece.
    Doman Restoration doesn't involve tagging thousands of gather points to get XP and then waiting around for another week to get cowries to actually buy stuff.
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    For all the complaints about time gates, people do love going in circles about the whole concept.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raim View Post
    Laughing at these people saying Island Sanctuary is timegated when it took most people like 2 weeks to unlock everything. Meanwhile Doman Restoration is literally 3+ months for what is essentially one glamour chestpiece.
    And? That doesn't make it not a time gates. Also x to doubt anyone could unlock everything in 2weeks. Two mounts 24k, motorcycle 24k that's the maximum you could earn, still another mount, 2 hairstyles, the wings, the minion, the barding, two orchestrations, and 6 gear pieces left.
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  9. #89
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raim View Post
    Laughing at these people saying Island Sanctuary is timegated when it took most people like 2 weeks to unlock everything. Meanwhile Doman Restoration is literally 3+ months for what is essentially one glamour chestpiece.
    Actually no. You need over 100k cowries to buy out the vendor. You can rank 10 in two weeks, you can even get the motorcycle and trader of paradise in that time. But the rest of the vendor stuff? At least a month and a half or so.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bsrking5 View Post
    And? That doesn't make it not a time gates. Also x to doubt anyone could unlock everything in 2weeks. Two mounts 24k, motorcycle 24k that's the maximum you could earn, still another mount, 2 hairstyles, the wings, the minion, the barding, two orchestrations, and 6 gear pieces left.
    They can't. We are in what...season 3, season 4 now? I've got the motorcycle, the two hairstyles, gear, and the wings. Not the other stuff.

    The best you can hope for in a single week is like 20-24k at most, if you play it perfectly via the pattern. It takes at least a month to buy out the shop.
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    Timegating is just a stupid idea and just let us do what WE want to do. People wouldn't unsub for getting what they want so quickly just paranoia
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