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  1. #71
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    Jojoya's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boblawblah View Post
    people seem happy to afk for days on end, that doesn't make it good content.
    What is "good" content depends on the individual and what they're looking for. It's subjective. I don't find PvP "good" content. Others do.

    SE never said this content was intended to appeal to everyone. I can't remember what thread I said it in, but I'm pointed out it's fine to say "this isn't content that appeals to me". But people going on a rant about how terrible the content is after describing the ways they're rushing through the content after the developers specifically stated it's intended to be slow paced, relaxing content is almost as amusing as it is pathetic.

    What's funnier is the number of them that will continue to do the content despite dismissing it as boring, dumb and the other negative things they said.
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  2. #72
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    GTK0HLK's Avatar
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    here's the cut and dry..,
    does anyone here actually care what everyone else wants, or how they do it..,
    Nnno.., they don't.
    does what everyone else do affect them asides them getting access to items faster that are just cosmetic..,?
    no
    Does the way people enjoy things seem different/is different than others..,?
    Yes

    my island was rank 10 like a week or two ago. and idrc. and I don't min max.

    and since it isn't going to affect everyone if you can choose rest days or not.
    there is no reason to restrict.[they honestly could of added a benefit that is a per basis benefit if they wanted people to use the rest days, instead of a slow down for those who want to get it done within a week]

    Saying people should relax, or touch grass is ridiculous..,

    That debate was done ages ago.

    the topic is the rest days of creations that aren't exactly living. and how it was implemented was a delay. if they've had made it to how many rest days you can give them[with one day being a gain, and no loss if none] it would be a better working activity.

    <besides. everyone knows no matter what, people will get it done asap of they wish. just like everyone else is perfectly fine if you dont.>
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  3. #73
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    What is "good" content depends on the individual and what they're looking for. It's subjective. I don't find PvP "good" content. Others do.

    SE never said this content was intended to appeal to everyone. I can't remember what thread I said it in, but I'm pointed out it's fine to say "this isn't content that appeals to me". But people going on a rant about how terrible the content is after describing the ways they're rushing through the content after the developers specifically stated it's intended to be slow paced, relaxing content is almost as amusing as it is pathetic.

    What's funnier is the number of them that will continue to do the content despite dismissing it as boring, dumb and the other negative things they said.
    That doesn't make it "good", just look at pvp and how long it was openly mocked and ridiculed. Just because it has some time gates reward doesn't justify it being objectively bad, nor does it make it "good". And liking objectively bad content doesn't make it "good" either.
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  4. #74
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    What's funnier is the number of them that will continue to do the content despite dismissing it as boring, dumb and the other negative things they said.
    Are you really surprised people will suffer through content they don't enjoy just to get the rewards? Welcome to MMOs.
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  5. #75
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bsrking5 View Post
    That doesn't make it "good", just look at pvp and how long it was openly mocked and ridiculed. Just because it has some time gates reward doesn't justify it being objectively bad, nor does it make it "good". And liking objectively bad content doesn't make it "good" either.
    But IS is not "objectively bad". It is subjectively bad. PvP is a bit of a mixed bag, however. I will give you that. CC is pretty fun though, at least to me. That is my subjective opinion. Your position here is not objective at all. It is subjective.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 09-16-2022 at 10:19 AM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

  6. #76
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    Valfreyja Dis
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    I'm happy with the content. The Island is gorgeous. It has a lot of potential.

    I've got the fountain. I have everything maxed. Perfect crop layout, great selection of animals including most of the variants/rares. It's all automated. I've got a spreadsheet that tells me daily what to focus in my workshop for upcoming cycles, which takes all of 10 minutes or so. Leaving me time to enjoy the peaceful side of the Island.

    With updates coming in 6.3 and again in 6.4/6.5, and rumors I've heard of datamined stuff, I'm having no problems with the Island at all.

    Give us more resource types.
    Give us an underground area for more exploration.
    More underwater areas.
    More "cabins" to build on the Island and expand where we can relax.
    More creatures to capture and work with.
    More landmarks to play around with.

    The Island is cake. And anything we get beyond what is available now is just icing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bsrking5 View Post
    That doesn't make it "good", just look at pvp and how long it was openly mocked and ridiculed. Just because it has some time gates reward doesn't justify it being objectively bad, nor does it make it "good". And liking objectively bad content doesn't make it "good" either.
    What rewards are time-gated? Nothing ever goes away. You get them as fast or as slow as you desire. Why any would call them that seems kinda silly.

    It's like saying PvP rewards are time-gated because you have to take the time to earn Trophy Crystals or Wolf Marks.
    Tomestone gear is time-gated because you have to take time to earn Tomestones to get them.

    I mean, realistically, everything in the game is time-gated. Because you have to spend some time in getting any of it.

    Rest Cycles aren't time gating. The Workshop values are designed around a 5 day week.

    Realistically, if the Rest Cycles were removed, the values would all be decreased to fit into a 7 day week instead. They wouldn't remain what they are now. The bonus % values on Supply and Popularity would be decreased, in addition to Groove and workshop values.
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    Last edited by Valfreyja; 09-16-2022 at 12:56 PM.

  7. #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valfreyja View Post
    Rest Cycles aren't time gating. The Workshop values are designed around a 5 day week.
    I agree with most everything else you said, except for this. Time gating is exactly what it is. Is it effective at being a time gate for anyone wanting or willing to brute force the grind? Nope, not really. But it's a time gate all the same. It is very clearly intended to slow people down. I'd be very surprised if there was another explanation at the core of its design. I've been around the block way more than once. I know a time gate when I see it.
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 09-16-2022 at 01:07 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Naoki_Yoshida View Post
    Personal Housing
    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

  8. #78
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    Timegating go brrrrrr.
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  9. #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Are you really surprised people will suffer through content they don't enjoy just to get the rewards? Welcome to MMOs.
    Doesn't surprise me. I wouldn't be laughing if it was surprising me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absimiliard View Post
    Timegating go brrrrrr.
    More like time gating go brrrrrr...clunk.
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