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    Enjuden's Avatar
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    Jul 2013
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Enju Abbagliato
    World
    Balmung
    Main Class
    Samurai Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Cetonis View Post
    This is false. Machinist is outperforming Bard and Dancer in the vast, vast majority of scenarios.

    It's just that the one place they aren't, is in high skill, well optimized 8-man groups. The kinds you seek if you want to week 1 clear Savage, especially *this* Savage, but that don't matter at all for the purposes of legitimately 99+% of players.

    That's been Machinist's "problem" ever since late Stormblood. As a job that does not at all scale with group quality, it absolutely cannot be allowed to compete with Bard or Dancer at the highest levels of group play. That would be disastrous for ranged balance, as another pointed out, since there wouldn't be any scenarios where you'd want a Bard or Dancer (unless they were given a res, maybe).


    SE has, plainly, long since decided that this is fine. Machinist mains are playing what is easily the most powerful ranged dps class - until you're in the kind of group that is so high-end, they demand all their members be able to flex within their role.

    In other words, the players for whom MCH is weak, are by definition also the ones who are already prepared to job swap anyway. It's weird for a job to be perma-singled out to be in that state, but you can imagine SE being fine with it. It's not a wildly unreasonable stance.
    Sounds like someone who swapped jobs just to clear the tier because they realized it wasn't good enough.

    Oh wait. You did.

    I could probably clear the fights I am in significantly easier if I was Bard or Dancer this tier. But I refuse to simp for my static, so they all get to suffer for it instead because Machinist isn't even meeting par. If you're going to state something so absurd, at least provide proof of it, which you can't do because the data already proves otherwise.
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    Last edited by Enjuden; 09-17-2022 at 03:45 AM.