can we talk about casters

[Ransu]

They made it up. The tax doesn't exist. The classes just don't do as much deeps. It's a silly term for silly people.

Bow mage...

The ranged tax has been a thing since post HW. Their answer to ARR BRD was literally to put a cast time on them in HW and people hated the cast times (I didn't mind it personally) thus they removed it and lowered the physical ranged dps heavily.

[Rithy255]

I actually agree, I think BLM should be around samurais level, RDM/SMN should be given a boost to compensate a bit.
Phys ranged is another case, they shouldn't be above melee or BLM. (They should be a bit above rdm/smn considering both bring a battle raise, but it shouldn't be too much).

Yeah sure we should focus on balancing jobs in their "own categories" but it would be nice for more party comps aka double caster or double ranged comp, Not saying Melee shouldn't be top either just that they really don't need to be that far above the rest considering fight design.

[TheMightyMollusk]

Part of the "ranged tax" is that physical ranged jobs are supposed to have mobility as well as utility spells to make up for the lower damage, playing as a support/DPS.

Of course, machinist currently offers no unique utility (their only non-role utility is Tactician, which might as well be a role skill since it's functionally identical to Shield Samba and Troubador), while also having the worst damage, but that's another problem.

[Zomkei]

rip rdm smn and mch. may you be remembered by the dev team that you still exist

[MagiusNecros]

Bow mage...

The ranged tax has been a thing since post HW. Their answer to ARR BRD was literally to put a cast time on them in HW and people hated the cast times (I didn't mind it personally) thus they removed it and lowered the physical ranged dps heavily.

Got a dev source on that?

[Dohmi-Zeiva]

They made it up. The tax doesn't exist. The classes just don't do as much deeps. It's a silly term for silly people.

You dont need to use third party tools yourself to know any of this information. Because plenty of other people use them and the results are then logged on specific websites for everyone to see.

Casters are universally lower than melee. Stop burying your head in the sand and stop derping on about third party tools. We all know they are widely used for better or worse they are here to stay.

Heck, SE have buffed certain jobs after the masses have complained about their damage. After they themselves verify it. Balancing is an ongoing thing, as to be expected. But the players shouldnt just sit on their hands and say nothing. SE aren't perfect and we should all help each other the improve this game.

EDIT, I was actually meant to quote the person you quoted. My bad.

[Rolder50]

Got a dev source on that?

The proof is in the pudding, so to speak



Notice the rather clear distinction between melee+blm compared to the other ranged jobs. The only reasons for that cliff to exist are either:

1) Ranged tax.

2) They're just really bad at balancing.

Take your pick

[MagiusNecros]

The proof is in the pudding, so to speak

Got it the raider community made it up. The classes just suck because the devs made the xpac a melee one.

[Rolder50]

Got it the raider community made it up. The classes just suck because the devs made the xpac a melee one.

Got it, you're going with #2 then.

[MagiusNecros]

Got it, you're going with #2 then.

It's the only right answer. It's only a matter of time before MCH becomes a limited job.