3% HP nerf, what a giant slap in the dev's face

[Kachou_]

TLDR P8S got a 3% HP nerf. You can clear with 60000 total Rdps now(instead of 61800). This is basically admitting they made a huge mistake in playtesting this tier.
Who cares about job balance if you can clear with your feet. Time to roll out our 4 MCH comp.

[Ransu]

This seriously isn't that big of a deal....They overtuned it and fixed it. Ya'll need to calm down on this whole thing, especially when its only the 1% of the 1% that this even applies to. Most people wont see this fight for weeks.

[Kachou_]

This seriously isn't that big of a deal....They overtuned it and fixed it. Ya'll need to calm down on this whole thing, especially when its only the 1% of the 1% that this even applies to. Most people wont see this fight for weeks.

Overtune 3%. LMAO. Do you understand what 1800 rdps means?
You can now clear with 5 deaths and 8 damage downs. The 3% just shows that how bad job balance is now.

[FireMage]

This seriously isn't that big of a deal....They overtuned it and fixed it. Ya'll need to calm down on this whole thing, especially when its only the 1% of the 1% that this even applies to. Most people wont see this fight for weeks.

Imagine being this flippant with Savage participation numbers when it's a huge amount of the playerbase

[VictorSpoils]

Shoulda nerfed Sephirot instead dangit.

[Tiramu]

Imagine being this flippant with Savage participation numbers when it's a huge amount of the playerbase

Well, it isnt a huge amount of the playerbase, quite the opposite. Participation in high end content at end game is proportionally small in the greater scheme of things. If you're routinely clearing high end content at end game then you're well within the top 10% of MMO players.

I believe its something like 20% having some kind of engagement Savage content, and 10% playing it in the way HE raid groups do. And even then, its only a small proprtion of those who are aggressively hitting that content.

Anyway, this is why so many players avoid high end content, way too much drama.

[FireMage]

Well, it isnt a huge amount of the playerbase, quite the opposite. Participation in high end content at end game is proportionally small in the greater scheme of things.

You are factually wrong

https://game.watch.impress.co.jp/doc...e/1357797.html

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[Nezerius]

TLDR P8S got a 3% HP nerf. You can clear with 60000 total Rdps now(instead of 61800). This is basically admitting they made a huge mistake in playtesting this tier.
Who cares about job balance if you can clear with your feet. Time to roll out our 4 MCH comp.

You didn't need any numbers for them to "basically admit" that they made a mistake in playtesting P8S. They literally explained this in the patch notes that were made available shortly after the start of last night's maintenance.

[Tiramu]

You are factually wrong

https://game.watch.impress.co.jp/doc...e/1357797.html

Dismissed

"Dismissed"? LOL, aren't you a charmer.


Anyway, ignoring the unnecessary snark, and discussing the topic like a normal human being. What he is saying isn't exactly a million miles away from what I said, so I don't quite get why you felt the need to be smart with me. Anyway, I was basing what I said on other discussions where it was being placed at around 20% clearing high end content at end game.

The article says that around 50% of players are casual and don't really bother with higher difficulty content, of the other 50% who do a lot of this is casual engagement with around 30% clearing the content. This doesn't mean that 30% are hard core raiders though. I doubt 100% of high end content clearers are hardcore raiders.

So, yes, I was off, but not by much, and it doesn't make a "huge amount of players", 30% tops if we are being really generous about it.

[FireMage]

"Dismissed"? LOL, aren't you a charmer.


Anyway, ignoring the unnecessary snark, and discussing the topic like a normal human being. What he is saying isn't exactly a million miles away from what I said, so I don't quite get why you felt the need to be smart with me. Anyway, I was basing what I said on other discussions where it was being placed at around 20% clearing high end content at end game.

The article says that around 50% of players are casual and don't really bother with higher difficulty content, of the other 50% who do a lot of this is casual engagement with around 30% clearing the content. This doesn't mean that 30% are hard core raiders though. I doubt 100% of high end content clearers are hardcore raiders.

So, yes, I was off, but not by much, and it doesn't make a "huge amount of players", 30% tops if we are being really generous about it.

Careful, those goalposts are heavy. Imagine still fronting when proven wrong