Jaggedy-Eared Jack and the like - Vote, please!

[Wolfie]

I mean I agree with getting more world NMs and different pop conditions... but you make it sound like the NMs we have now are crappy. They're not.

And some of FFXI's pop conditions were so obtuse that people even doubted that the NMs existed, like Voluptuous Vilma.

[TheVedis]

You cant bring back something that did not exist to begin with, the last line of your post nullified everything else with just that statement

[ThePatriarch]

I am trying to understand why people are so avidly against Final Fantasy XI-type additions.

As of right now, Final Fantasy XI still has 325,000 subs. How many does XIV have?

People can cry foul all that they want, and stand adamantly on the basis of hoping for a "vision" that Yoshida has... The truth is that this game is still a blunt and obvious failure, and has a long way to come.

With ideas like XI-style open world NM/HNMs being added how is it going to hurt you? Why spend so much time posting in threads trying to nullify these kind of options. You can still go to your instanced raids, and the like. We will go hunt our NM's.

Why do you people need everything so black and white? Why can't these things coexist in game?

[Wolfie]

And fyi, these NMs are not supposed to be challenging like FFXI's. They're there for quests and to fill item gaps; they're set up so that everyone on the server can get their stuff from them and move on.

It's a completely different meta-game. Stop trying to turn this game into an MMO that it wasn't meant to be.

[Jinko]

I am trying to understand why people are so avidly against Final Fantasy XI-type additions.

Because I played that game for 5 years and I don't want to play it again.

If I wanted to play FF11 I would.

This game should be about Yoshi-p vision of what an online Final Fantasy should be, not a crappy forced remake of FF11.

As of right now, Final Fantasy XI still has 325,000 subs. How many does XIV have?

What the hell has that got to do with it ?

FFXIV was a massive failure because of Tanaka and SE's rush to get it out before it was finished.

Yoshi-p is trying to make the game better, he is adding idea's from previous offline games in the franchise, which IMO is the correct path to be taking.

Go play FF11 if you miss it so much. (oh wait Tanaka has screwed that up also)

With ideas like XI-style open world NM/HNMs being added how is it going to hurt you?

FFXI didn't come up with the idea of world bosses ya know, now if you worded things a bit differently like "can we have some more world bosses" then sure I would agree with that. But when you say "Can you give us NM's like in FF11" I don't, because the majority where nothing special.

I want world bosses to be awesome, Omega Weapon, a Garlean mech thing (like in the moogle cutscene), Adamantoise etc.

[Wolfie]

I am trying to understand why people are so avidly against Final Fantasy XI-type additions.

As of right now, Final Fantasy XI still has 325,000 subs. How many does XIV have?

People can cry foul all that they want, and stand adamantly on the basis of hoping for a "vision" that Yoshida has... The truth is that this game is still a blunt and obvious failure, and has a long way to come.

With ideas like XI-style open world NM/HNMs being added how is it going to hurt you? Why spend so much time posting in threads trying to nullify these kind of options. You can still go to your instanced raids, and the like. We will go hunt our NM's.

Why do you people need everything so black and white? Why can't these things coexist in game?

Because it's a different game. Is that not enough?

Why can't you work with what things are meant to be in this game and improve those, instead of asking them to scrap ideas and/or copy directly from another game?

[Yves]

Because it's a different game. Is that not enough?

Why can't you work with what things are meant to be in this game and improve those, instead of asking them to scrap ideas and/or copy directly from another game?

Well, because the forums were set up for feedback on the game. If you read the OP you will see that I'm not asking for epic gear or the like - simply for the type of mobs as a potential activity. I really like the idea of trophies and trinkets. I am not asking for this to be a component of the greater game mechanics but rather a side task like crafting. Keep in mind that many of us don't have things to do for a good amount of the game. I'm on my final leg of getting my last two DoL to 50 (46 Botany, 45 fishing) and only have four crafting jobs left to finish (46 GSM, 34 BSM, 44 ALc, 3 CUL) and sometimes I would like a break from those.

If this is something you wouldn't enjoy that's cool - we all enjoy different aspects of the game. But posts like these are meant to gauge the desire and hopefully bring something to the table. In essence, I am suggesting that this be an optional task like the much-desired card games people want. It is no different.

*Also note that the idea of trophies and trinkets is something Yoshida actually has mentioned on a few occasions - this is just an idea of how to possibly obtain them.

[Jinko]

If this is something you wouldn't enjoy that's cool - we all enjoy different aspects of the game. But posts like these are meant to gauge the desire and hopefully bring something to the table. In essence, I am suggesting that this be an optional task like the much-desired card games people want. It is no different.

*Also note that the idea of trophies and trinkets is something Yoshida actually has mentioned on a few occasions - this is just an idea of how to possibly obtain them.

Yea the problem I have is that games are supposed to be made by the company and director of the project, not the fans.

I don't see what is wrong with the bosses we have at the moment, granted we need more lvl 50 ones, Mosshorn, Giant Buffalo, Goblin etc are all fun bosses if you want something to do go kill one them.

[Yves]

Yea the problem I have is that games are supposed to be made by the company and director of the project, not the fans.

I don't see what is wrong with the bosses we have at the moment, granted we need more lvl 50 ones, Mosshorn, Giant Buffalo, Goblin etc are all fun bosses if you want something to do go kill one them.

Again, because they literally asked for our feedback and ideas via these forums as they reshape the game. What's wrong with trying to aid a process when you have been asked to?

[Antanias]

Yea the problem I have is that games are supposed to be made by the company and director of the project, not the fans.

It's a little late for that