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    Quote Originally Posted by DrekeLamorte View Post
    Not when this version of the game is coming to a close in half a years time. You still have yet to draw any tangible correlation, OR ANYONE FOR THAT MATTER, between adding epeen content(already been done and is in yoshi's favor) and it having a negative impact on the game. If anything, the epeen fluff stuff has done more for 14 so far than either primal fights.
    What epeen fluff stuff is currently in game? Most people are just excited that jobs have been released and the game is FINALLY shaping up after all of this waiting.

    If all we had were the classes still people would not be as excited compared to how they are now. PUG would be a no show, THM would be angry at how they will be in parties to mostly cure, and etc.

    Most of what is in Yoshi's favor has nothing to do with some item being placed in game right now. It's how he is modding this horrid world into something much better than Tanaka left behind. The long wait is finally starting to pay off.

    Epeen/Competition only matters at endgame. So you camped for 100 hours just to receive an item slightly better, for a job you will level up, and then never look back at the item again. That's is nothing to boast about to anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akumu View Post
    So you camped for 100 hours just to receive an item slightly better for a job you will level and never look back at the item again. That's is nothing to boast about to anyone.
    If that's what someone wants to do with their time and they enjoy so be it. It doesn't effect either one of us so why care? That's like me being pissed that someone ate falafel in Central Park for lunch - it only impacts them and the vendor. If people want falafel and the vendor is willing to selling aaaaaand it doesn't have any impact on us why freak out?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akumu View Post
    What epeen fluff stuff is currently in game? Most people are just excited that jobs have been released and the game is FINALLY shaping up after all of this waiting.

    If all we had were the classes still people would not be as excited compared to how they are now. PUG would be a no show, THM would be angry at how they will be in parties to mostly cure, and etc.

    Most of what is in Yoshi's favor has nothing to do with some item being placed in game right now. It's how he is modding this horrid world into something much better than Tanaka left behind. The long wait is finally paying off.

    Epeen/Competition only matters at endgame. So you camped for 100 hours just to receive an item slightly better for a job you will level and then never look back at the item again. That's is nothing to boast about to anyone.
    Again you completely miss the entire topic. It's not for some low-mid level gear to satisfy you until endgame content. It's substance. Things other than powerful gear. That's what makes an MMO a fun place to be. Options, choices, shared experiences. It doesn't all have to be PL pt's so you can make laps around AV/CC/lolmoogle/loliffy for gear, that i'll remind you will be rendered more obsolete with every patch. That's the nature of the beast. Can't you people ever just enjoy content for the sake of doing something, without having to have +120 in all the most OP stats you can to enjoy it. Gear grind =/= a game. It's a niche part. Only important as a whole experience.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yves View Post
    If that's what someone wants to do with their time and they enjoy so be it. It doesn't effect either one of us so why care?
    Because said content has to be made for the majority of the player base, else it's not worth the cost of development. It pretty much goes without saying most people will not camp hours on end for a piece of fluff gear. If they have absolutely nothing better for members of their development team to do (which by the looks of things won't happen for at LEAST 2 years) then that's when it's worthwhile to do it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yves View Post
    If that's what someone wants to do with their time and they enjoy so be it. It doesn't effect either one of us so why care? That's like me being pissed that someone ate falafel in Central Park for lunch - it only impacts them and the vendor. If people want falafel and the vendor is willing to selling aaaaaand it doesn't have any impact on us why freak out?
    No it's not like that at all. Everything that's added into this game needs to be evaluated and checked for the costs.
    Yoshi-P constantly has similar writings in his posts so it's safe to assume Big Daddy SE isn't just throwing money at him. If Yoshi purchases a falafel he better have enough for the majority to eat.

    Yoshi needs to continue using his limited resources wisely and save the MMO(excuse the word) "fodder" for a much later time. 2.0 is coming around the corner and he's going to need more hard hitting stuff to attract and keep gamers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akumu View Post
    No it's not like that at all. Everything that's added into this game needs to be evaluated and checked for the costs.
    Yoshi-P constantly has similar writings in his posts so it's safe to assume Big Daddy SE isn't just throwing money at him. If Yoshi purchases a falafel he better have enough for the majority to eat.

    Yoshi needs to continue using his limited resources wisely and save the MMO(excuse the word) "fodder" for a much later time. 2.0 is coming around the corner and he's going to need more hard hitting stuff to attract and keep gamers.
    That doesn't mean that people cannot and should not request functions they would like to see eventually make it into the game. If that was the case, these forums would not be here. Nobody is saying "this content needs to be here now" - what we are saying is that we would like to see and would prefer it be sooner than later. So far, it seems SE has a timeline and vision that they are working towards - I trust if they have resources they deem fit to direct towards this they will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akumu View Post
    Ok so up the drop rate and have Linkshells galore running around with their new shinies. How does that give a linkshell the epeen they are looking for? Difficult fights downed by the first Linkshell, using their own thought out strategy,
    is where the competition will be. Increasing the drop rate just allows any linkshell that gets lucky(or class stacking lazy) a new shiny which diminishes the value or epeen effect of it. Most of XI's epeen effect came from time consuming and luck based mechanics that made you a niche for having such a gift. Kraken Club was not one of the most expensive items because it was easily obtained.

    The epeen effect among LS happen when they have something to boast about over the majority of others.



    Yes the system in place for those fights(ifrit, moogle) is very annoying and should be changed. However, both XI and XIV are both luck based and each depends on the person telling their story.
    So what i'm getting is you want to control how fast you can get your epeen? Yes both was luck but XI rewarded 90% of the time for your time. Like i said nothing wrong with world bosses no one has given a valid argument why they shouldnt be here except it was boring to camp mobs for 4 hrs and i didn't like it.

    No monster's need pop windows or anything they could just spawn when they are ready. Just give me one good reason why it should be here besides it was in xi and it took a long time to camp certain mobs, because the latter can be fixed easy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yves View Post
    That doesn't mean that people cannot and should not request functions they would like to see eventually make it into the game. If that was the case, these forums would not be here. Nobody is saying "this content needs to be here now" - what we are saying is that we would like to see and would prefer it be sooner than later. So far, it seems SE has a timeline and vision that they are working towards - I trust if they have resources they deem fit to direct towards this they will.
    I have never stated such things should not be asked for, I simply gave my opinion on how time consuming wait mechanics should not be added as content, prior to endgame. If a MMO consumes your time it should not be by standing and waiting or reaching a location and hoping, as a low level.

    Achievement rewards and Holiday Events is how you add such "extras" into a MMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Firon View Post
    So what i'm getting is you want to control how fast you can get your epeen? Yes both was luck but XI rewarded 90% of the time for your time. Like i said nothing wrong with world bosses no one has given a valid argument why they shouldnt be here except it was boring to camp mobs for 4 hrs and i didn't like it.

    No monster's need pop windows or anything they could just spawn when they are ready. Just give me one good reason why it should be here besides it was in xi and it took a long time to camp certain mobs, because the latter can be fixed easy.
    Spawn when they are ready? So you will still be playing the waiting game even more than XI... I don't know how else to express what I keep re-typing so...

    This will be my last post on this thread. I have no other way to express the main point of my post without sounding rude about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Akumu View Post
    Spawn when they are ready? So you will still be playing the waiting game even more than XI... I don't know how else to express what I keep re-typing so...

    This will be my last post on this thread. I have no other way to express the main point of my post without sounding rude about it.
    How is it an waiting game if you know the monster spawns 22 hrs exactly from the last death.....? Just like the joy toy nm it spawned 8 hrs after death one of the easier nm's to claim. Ok guys X___X spawns in 10 mins lets teleport to bluefog to claim, where is the waiting game you speak of? Or is it you just want more 5 min respawn mobs if you do we already have that. the the whole point of this thread OP does not want an 5 min respawn NM's might as well put it in an instance like ifrit then.
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