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    Quote Originally Posted by PharisHanasaki View Post
    -snip- I'm not sure if this current change has to do with Yoshi P working on 16, or not, but it's clear Yoshi P is getting a bit out of touch with 14's community.
    I just wanted to respond to this part of your quote. I'm sorry for taking it out of the full quote, but hopefully context won't be lost.

    I don't believe the forums are any sort of indicator of the devs involvement with the community personally. I've seen SO many issues get addressed that the JP community just didn't care about (to name just a few: Hroth ears, Female Hroth, Male Viera - please correct me if I'm wrong).

    However, I do see a shift IN-GAME when it comes to this quote, and I completely agree - it does seem like Yoshi is drifting away from the XIV community. There have been changes that looked way more similar to the 1.x mentality - specifically Viera / Hroth implementation (gender locked / no hats / unfinished). Another issue I've noticed is the lack of detail in armor (ears for miqote, anyone remember visors?, 3-months between patches, no longer supporting hard mode early dungeons / only 1 dungeon per patch which is usually tied to the MSQ only). These are pretty minor in the long run, but I have noticed it seems like the keen eye to detail isn't like it was in 2.x.

    Yoshi, however, has given me nearly 9yrs of great gameplay with my family. He has at least earned, from me personally, the benefit of the doubt. I think what you said is true in that possibly 16 is just stretching him thin. I wouldn't want anyone else to replace him, despite him seemingly checking out. I don't really have an answer to this concern other than I'm glass half-full right now, but I do notice a change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleArrow View Post
    I've seen SO many issues get addressed that the JP community just didn't care about (to name just a few: Hroth ears, Female Hroth, Male Viera - please correct me if I'm wrong).
    Yes, I'll correct you.

    Hroth ears was most definitely mentioned on the Japanese forum, along with a lot of likes. It was most certainly cared about by the JP forum community.

    The others, maybe, the conventions on that side of the Fora are a little different to here. Suggestions don't usually create an angry multi-page debate like we see here with half the EN playerbase telling the other they can't have what they want. (neener neener with moose antlers optional)

    Rather the Japanese part of the fora mostly seem to work on one post and like-gathering, with follow up posts offering extra thoughts. There is not much of the rehashing-the-same-point discourse we see here. If it's a poorly thought out, unpopular idea, it will be (0) on the bottom of the post.

    Of course, there are exceptions. Always. Some topics - like the zero bug housing refund - had a little acrimony in it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Yes, I'll correct you.

    Hroth ears was most definitely mentioned on the Japanese forum, along with a lot of likes. It was most certainly cared about by the JP forum community.

    The others, maybe, the conventions on that side of the Fora are a little different to here. Suggestions don't usually create an angry multi-page debate like we see here with half the EN playerbase telling the other they can't have what they want. (neener neener with moose antlers optional)

    Rather the Japanese part of the fora mostly seem to work on one post and like-gathering, with follow up posts offering extra thoughts. There is not much of the rehashing-the-same-point discourse we see here. If it's a poorly thought out, unpopular idea, it will be (0) on the bottom of the post.

    Of course, there are exceptions. Always. Some topics - like the zero bug housing refund - had a little acrimony in it.
    Thanks for the insight! I knew the JP forums used their feedback primarily with the thumbs up button - more thumbs up = bigger issue.

    I remember a JP poster coming to our forums seeking support on their forum for the Hroth ears to be fixed - or something to that nature. When I checked their posts, most of what I understood were JP players were sad for Hroth players, but there weren't that many of them, and they understood that it was too much work for Yoshi and his team to fix it.

    If anything, and this is purely from my observation NOT from my indepth understanding of the situation from a JP perspective, it seemed like the JP poster was asking us for help to get more awareness on the JP forums - not that there was already a large outcry from the JP community.

    However, if what you said is true, then I'm very wrong and I really really misunderstood the situation - this would not be a first for me ,_,
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleArrow View Post
    I remember a JP poster coming to our forums seeking support on their forum for the Hroth ears to be fixed - or something to that nature.
    He was a very nice person too! Quite passionately seeking the best for his character's race.

    Quote Originally Posted by LittleArrow View Post
    However, if what you said is true, then I'm very wrong...
    Noooooo, hugs, you just won't often see a large outcry there, the saying-NO!-on-behalf-of-the-devs stuff and cyclical arguments we see here is rather EN unique!
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