Quote Originally Posted by Astralrisk View Post
I only used LoL specifically as it's the biggest example of the mix queues, but there other games that have the same format and seemingly do fine with it. And I still think it would be a better alternative to just adding full group queues like they did with Feast. I do agree that if they add the seperate group queue could potentially create population issues, which is why I did think 1-2 player queues would be better since it would least keep the player base in the same queue pool to not completely ruin the queue times.
The problem is that at the first sign of pressure, it's going to be your solo queues that leave first. You might ask, how can I be so sure?, to which I reply: have you read these forums lately? The presence of a handful of early cheaters was enough to turn S1 into a 'cheaters are the entire reason I'm stuck in Bronze and lose every game I'm in' party for months. In this very thread we've got people who firmly believe that the entire reason they can't escape Gold is RNG. Give them a threat like duos and lord, we will never hear the end of it.

But also, unlike the tongue-in-cheek examples, it's not a purely hypothetical threat. The majority of LBs in this mode become exponentially more dangerous with teamwork. This is why much of the skill of this mode is literally just a) learning to communicate your intentions to your group and b) learning to read the intentions of your party in turn. A number of LB+LB combinations are straight up instant team fight wins with little to no counterplay if the timing is right. CC synchronization is rage inducing enough in solos, you want to open the door to choose-two BRD/BLM/RDM/MNK 10s 100-to-0 death trains? A motivated and skilled duo is much, much, much more than the sum of its parts in a rocket tag game mode like this.

It works in other games, but this isn't other games. I just can't see a path to viability for a team queue system outside of tightly controlled competitive environments - bundle it in with solo, and it'll just kill solo off.