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[Midareyukki]

that's not how facts work.

He HAS an odd behaviour. He didn't act like this prior to 5.3, not even in ARR. Please point to me the one time prior to 5.3 where he had a tailgasm.
And he HAS had nothing else to expand upon other than wanting to go on an adventure with us. His major gripe, which was his own self-doubt and self-esteem issues when comparing himself and his worth to that of others, which was solved as of 5.3. He's since carried himself with more confidence, hasn't he? And when he meets his heroes, worse he does is fanboy over them, not say "I will literally die for you because I'm inconsequential". Care to point any major arc about G'raha Tia left unresolved other than character quirks? Because him fanboying over his heroes isn't a major arc for the character, it's a quirk.

So excuse me, but how am I getting facts wrong exactly? Or maybe the guys giving you thumbs up despite you being wrong care to explain?

What is this, you policing me now? Nitpicking and scrutinizing what I write in such a prepotent attitude? Do you not have anything better to do? I get the previous post and I apologized, but this one's utter bull.

I didn't say anything wrong in that post, yet it's the second time tonight you do this. At least have some decency to think before preaching like you know what you're talking about. Or keep the context? Because you conveniently ignore the post right before yours where I explain that reasoning. I can't tell if you're calling me out on anything, if you're a troll that isn't worth my time (which you likely are) or if you're just here to expose yourself as haughty.

If you're gonna scrutinize my posts to drop crap answers like those, at least read them. I'm not going off of opinion on this one. The change in his portrayal and his lack of major arcs exist. Whether they're good or bad things, and their implications, now that's up to each individual here to figure out for himself. Pointing those two aspects out doesn't constitute hate over the character.

So get off my back.

Anyway, this thread's about Krile, not G'raha. And that's a fact.

[Momo_Kozuki]

I think Krile's current position is similar to Hydelean pre-EW. Before EW, Hydelean is just a big talking crystal that barely does anything in the eyes of players, and have since disappeared after her last appearance in post-HW. Then, in EW and the introduction of Venat, in a very short time (like a region-worth), Hydelean became one of the most beloved characters in the eyes of many players (not all, of course, but I believe the disliking is minority).


So if the writer do it well, Krile can shift her position from one of the least-impactful Scion into a character that a majority will feel fond of. As long as they don't rush her character development like Lyse, though. Lyse is a strong example of how a good character can be turned bad for suddenly turning her into someone else that no one cares for, and give her too little time for character development despite she has a whole expansion for that.

[VelKallor]

There should not be any further debates as to the merits of this statement.

I BEG your pardon?

"Rich kids"

This again. I have to ask, whats your beef here? Seriously, what?

Oh and Krile isnt a child, either. she is a grown woman.

Quite frankly, I will be very interested to see how she develops. We have literally ZERO (no pun intended ) idea of where we are going or what is to come..why are you making assumptions?

She is a scholar, an Archon, a Student of Baldesion and will have a lot to bring to the storyline.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Very true. That thread might be coming soon depending on how fast I can type and how much I want to put into it lol

A thread Created to Hate on a Character that is well Loved, inspired by a Thread about The Future of another character that got Derailed High into the Void.
Gosh the internet is amazing XD

[Vahlnir]

A thread Created to Hate on a Character that is well Loved, inspired by a Thread about The Future of another character that got Derailed High into the Void.
Gosh the internet is amazing XD

And I'd be in that thread posting the same opinions about the guy, because that's the equivalent of telling me to not push the big red button that says "do not push this button". So of course, I'd have to press it. I simply couldn't help myself due to feeling so strongly on the subject.

[VelKallor]

And I'd be in that thread posting the same opinions about the guy, because that's the equivalent of telling me to not push the big red button that says "do not push this button". So of course, I'd have to press it. I simply couldn't help myself due to feeling so strongly on the subject.

Reverse psychology..

I love it.

[Soge01]

This thread is entertaining. :3

[Hayden]

I love it, anytime somebody has the gall to say "I love this character because..." or "I dislike this character because..." others feel the need to bombard them with essay length reasons they are wrong.

HOWEVER, to argue a character has no PURPOSE is a whole other story. No if, and, or, buts about it. You're dead wrong there.

[aveyond-dreams]

Anywho I find it funny that some people who don't like Krile due to her being boring also don't want her to gain a chance to not become boring. Just hope they do a better job than drop the ball like they did with Zenos post 4.0 death.

If you had read the OP you would have seen that there is more to it than that.

Simply put, the last thing we need is another Sharlayan in the party. Stacking the Scions full of scholarly types from the same single nation aside from Estinien has led to a critical lack of diversity in both appearance and ideology amongst the player party. Krile being a lalafell is a change of pace in terms of looks alright, but I struggle to comprehend what she could possibly bring in terms of personality and lore expositions that Y’shtola does not – given that it seems we will never be rid of the latter.

It is also concerning that this interview brings up even more “goofiness” as if that wasn’t one of the reasons why 6.0 has been criticized for the way in which it handled both its pacing and the main cast. Granted, I believe that characters should have multiple facets of their personality displayed over the course of the main story but “goofiness” is the last thing that we need after the sort of scenes we saw in 6.0 and 6.1. If Krile is to be a compelling addition to the main cast, she must be allowed to grow as a character, suffer loss, sacrifice, and emerge either triumphant or else suffer something in the way of permanent consequences arising from whatever actions she takes in 7.0.

Of all the characters and archetypes that should be included moving forward, another Sharlayan scholar should have been the absolute last thing they should've considered. I can think of a number of different sorts of healers that would bring more to the otherwise lackluster cast:

- A male Roegadyn marine who fights as a scholar using advanced military arts, with a grand and rough around the edges personality who enjoys drinking and gambling. With a dominant and unyielding demeanor, he puts individuals like Y'shtola in their rightful place when they begin to act out of turn or unjustly haughty.

- A female Au Ra shamaness from the far east who is deeply devoted to her religious practices and is torn between her love of her people and the world beyond the Ruby Sea. Seeing the world with fresh eyes, she forms a deep connection with the people she encounters and tries to be friendly, mediating between any rivalries between the party.

- A female Hrothgar priestess who was sent forth from her temple to assist the party, following the fate foretold to her by the stars in order to safeguard her people's future. Despite knowing that she may have to perform the ultimate sacrifice, she marches forward toward her fate with unflinching conviction, with her truest feelings being those of deep affection for her travelling companions.

- A male Viera necromancer who pursues the dark arts in an attempt to bring back the loved ones he has lost to war, plague, or both. With a standoffish and melancholy personality, he slowly comes to terms with his loss and despite his inability to fully restore them to their original state, their spirits never fail to answer his call in battle.

But sure, the lalafell from Sharlayan is so much better to add. I don't trust them at present to devote the animation resources to showcasing anything of her past that would make her more interesting, nor do I believe she will serve as anything but a continued reminder of how much Hydaelyn allegedly loved the player character. The misuse of resources that we witnessed in Endwalker must be called out if we are to see them redirected to issues of greater importance to the story as well as numerous other game features where they would be better spent.

[Midareyukki]

@ Midareyukki G'Raha's tail wiggle wouldn't have been able to happen back in ARR due to their animation know how wasn't that advanced back then. I think part of the reason why they've been showing it off mostly with food is due to players in the past wishing they'd actually show bites out of sandwiches ect. That and the only way he'd of gotten that tail wag back in ARR was if he part of Hildibrand. Though even back then I don't think it would have been as fluid as we got.

Oh I understand that perfectly. After all, we didn't have animations as detailed before as we have now, so why wouldn't Square Enix capitalise on what they can do? It's not just him either, in fairness: Y'shtola herself wasn't droopy-eared or got flustered this much before for the exact same reason. I assume it's due to PS3 limitations? But either way, we do have a lot more expressivity now, and Square is making the most of it.

So that I understand.

However, his behaviour before in ARR, due to his lack of expressivity, came across as "fanboy but sober". Now that he's capable of being visibly expressive and animated, the stark contrast between pre-SHB G'raha and post-SHB G'raha is apparent. And I'd argue that that does have an effect on his he's being portrayed, hence why some people find it "weird" at best. And you've seen how people consider it at worst :x some people got thrown off by it. Because you went from someone who you knew could do something like this but didn't, making it ambiguous whether or not he actually would, to someone who genuinely would.

I'm not saying that the seeds for this sort of behaviour weren't there, certainly a lot of people saw it before and the CT quests made it clear he idolized us greatly.
The issue is more that, since the technology likely didn't allow it, his lack of expressivity painted a specific version of G'raha. And now that he's more expressive, G'raha's more emotive behaviours are REALLY pronounced.
Edit bc I also realized something: This came after his portrayal as a serious and self-sacrificial Exarch. Even if they aren't the same character at a fundamental value, the vast difference in portrayal makes it even more jarring. Because you go from cutscenes where his expressivity is toned down, to cutscenes where he has gravitas and the situation is dire and he can't afford to crack a genuine smile... to the heart eyes. Again, even if he had the seeds for this, there is some level of whiplash here, and some people reacted to it just fine, while others not so much.

As for the food animations, I genuinely have no problem with it and I think G'raha gets too much flack for the burger scene. It's Square flexing their cutscene powers again, and if people are too surprised by this, then they need to play other Final Fantasy games. Cutscene Power to the Maximum is literally Square's motto.

Besides, my biggest issue is with the animated sugar cube translating itself on the X axis in the Aglaia cutscenes. That came out when Hrothgar ears were missing from our hairstyles and we got a really daft explanation for it... yet we had time to animate sugar cubes? Sure Jan.