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  1. #61
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    Quote Originally Posted by dspguy View Post
    I'm not even sure the rare animals are anything all that special anyway. Take the Ornery Karakul. It's common leaving is Milk and the rare is Fleece. The Lost Lamb is just the reverse. Common is Fleece, rare is Milk. Now, maybe the Ornery Karakul would be special if the Milk was rare in general... But it is the common leaving from both Aurochs and Island Nanny.

    There are plenty more examples of this as well - "Rare" leavings being common on the weather/time-based creatures... but these are also common on common animals. And it isn't like these special animals can drop 2+ of these items. They are still bound to drop 0 or 1.

    I recently released some of my more "rare" animals in order to balance out my leavings. We can get up to 40 leavings per day from 20 animals with 9 types of leavings. So, ideally, we'll get something like ~4.5 of each type per day. In reality, this equates to balancing out your creatures so you get 5 each of 4 types and 4 each of 5 types.

    What we don't know is if these special creatures drop the rare item at a higher rate. I suppose we'd need someone to have a pasture with all common animals and track what they get for a few weeks and maybe we could have that data point. I think it is a good assumption that special creatures can't have a worse drop rate. But the fact remains, there is nothing "rare" about swapping the rare leaving with the common leaving.
    You're right. There's nothing special about the rares. They just flip the order of leavings. Things like Twinklefleece are purely there for cosmetics.

    I have a good mix of creatures, including both chocobos, both coblyns and glyptodon & pup. There's no difference in drop rates. As long as they're at max happiness, there's usually a second drop. Once in a while, you might only get one though. I have two apkallu of paradise and one didn't give me fleece this morning.
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  2. #62
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    You're right. There's nothing special about the rares. They just flip the order of leavings. Things like Twinklefleece are purely there for cosmetics.
    There are a couple of exceptions. The Island Stag doesn't have the same drops as the Island Doe, and the Island Billy doesn't have the same drops as the Island Nanny.

    Considering the Doe and Nanny both drop milk, I hope I don't need to explain why the Stag and Billy don't.
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    Last edited by Jojoya; 09-11-2022 at 11:06 PM.

  3. #63
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenfiddich View Post
    I have tested it.
    No food for 3 days.
    They are very angry but still drop loot.
    No Animal ran away. Not even the rare ones.
    Oh that's good to know! It would kinda suck if you took an extended break from the game and they were all gone.
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  4. #64
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    There are a couple of exceptions. The Island Stag doesn't have the same drops as the Island Doe, and the Island Billy doesn't have the same drops as the Island Nanny.

    Considering the Doe and Nanny both drop milk, I hope I don't need to explain why the Stag and Billy don't.
    Yeah, there's that. (I hope you don't need to explain why either.) I was thinking overall.
    The one timed spawn you need to cover base drops is the billy. One could live without the weather-based rares.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Just tried this out on twinklefleece tonight and I was able to catch him on my third net. \o/ Weeeeee. ONE MORE RARE TO GO!!!....although it's the goobbue, and I'm pretty certain that thing exists solely to waste my traps. Will let ya know how I get on with the ninjar trick on that one in a day or two.
    Alright, so just ninja'd the Goobbue tonight and snagged it on my first trap. That was my last rare, but I'd be curious to see if this works for other people as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Alright, so just ninja'd the Goobbue tonight and snagged it on my first trap. That was my last rare, but I'd be curious to see if this works for other people as well.
    I tried this and failed. I was late getting in, so I only got a few hits off before it timed out.
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  8. #67
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    I tried this and failed. I was late getting in, so I only got a few hits off before it timed out.
    Oh that's too bad. I wonder how it would have gone if not for the timer.
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    I'm about to try again

    wow. first hit
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    Last edited by Deveryn; 09-12-2022 at 04:08 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    Alright, so just ninja'd the Goobbue tonight and snagged it on my first trap. That was my last rare, but I'd be curious to see if this works for other people as well.
    I'm pretty sure that it's just RNG with this and the whole ninja stealth thing is just a coincidence. Some people are just that lucky sometimes. Just did this with the gator, as an fyi. 2 misses and then it ran away. So no, not convinced that this is a "thing".
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 09-12-2022 at 05:20 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    I'm pretty sure that it's just RNG with this and the whole ninja stealth thing is just a coincidence. Some people are just that lucky sometimes. Just did this with the gator, as an fyi. 2 misses and then it ran away. So no, not convinced that this is a "thing".
    Well, it didn’t hurt to share. I found this out and it “worked”, so I needed to see if it was a fluke. Since I went 3 for 3, I couldn’t get enough tests to try it out without dumping any of my animals. Some people seem to have tried and were successful, but you said you weren’t. That’s all I needed to see. Oh well. It sucks that it isn’t a thing.
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