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  1. #51
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    TaleraRistain's Avatar
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    I don't think it has anything to do with being close or behind. I landed right in the paissa's face today, tossed a rope, and got it on the first try. When I first got the medium restraints, I wasted I don't know how many on a normal dodo who kept walking around so sometimes I was behind and sometimes I was in front of it. It's just RNG.
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  2. #52
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiba_Whitewolf View Post
    I'm not doing any of the superstitious nonsense that people seem to think being behind has any impact. I just throw until they run inevitably run away. The very first time I saw the gator I used over 20 balls before it ran away.
    How is it superstitious nonsense in a game known to have conditions for creatures becoming aware of your presence? Some aggro by line of sight. Some aggro by sound (movement speed). Some aggro by use of magic. Probably a few other conditions I'm not thinking of off the top of my head (certainly Eureka took advantage of them).

    Up to you if you want to keep failing without trying something different.

    Quote Originally Posted by TaleraRistain View Post
    I don't think it has anything to do with being close or behind. I landed right in the paissa's face today, tossed a rope, and got it on the first try. When I first got the medium restraints, I wasted I don't know how many on a normal dodo who kept walking around so sometimes I was behind and sometimes I was in front of it. It's just RNG.
    Possibly but we can't know for certain because SE isn't sharing the details, just as players had to figure out the rules in Eureka.
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  3. #53
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    Mira Clearweaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Possibly but we can't know for certain because SE isn't sharing the details, just as players had to figure out the rules in Eureka.
    While it is certainly a sound possibility, after plenty of tries myself I came to think they don't really play any factor into success or failure of capturing X animal.

    Being a fan of Eureka/BSF, at first I instinctively always try to catch everything by sneaking from the animal's rear with walk mode toggled on. I even made sure to not get into their LoS before spotting them in my screen; I would walk back a bit further to let them render out and run in circle or to any obstacle before getting close. I consider my own luck to be quite good, but I also fail to see how that plays any factor in it because there was one time I had to go away really fast, I just run ahead to their front---dead front---hit them up, auto success! o.O" and this was my first rare animal, the Black Chocobo.

    Ever since then I stopped all the sneaky act and just casually say "Hi can I kidnap you?" lol
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    "Outside obvious jokes/sarcasm, I aim to convey my words to the future readers who may come across mine posts. Can I change -your- mind, somehow? Potentially... but that's not why I'm writing. You and I have wrote our piece(s). We don't necessarily need to change each other's mind. But we can change other's."

  4. #54
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    Jain Farstrider
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    I'm not even sure the rare animals are anything all that special anyway. Take the Ornery Karakul. It's common leaving is Milk and the rare is Fleece. The Lost Lamb is just the reverse. Common is Fleece, rare is Milk. Now, maybe the Ornery Karakul would be special if the Milk was rare in general... But it is the common leaving from both Aurochs and Island Nanny.

    There are plenty more examples of this as well - "Rare" leavings being common on the weather/time-based creatures... but these are also common on common animals. And it isn't like these special animals can drop 2+ of these items. They are still bound to drop 0 or 1.

    I recently released some of my more "rare" animals in order to balance out my leavings. We can get up to 40 leavings per day from 20 animals with 9 types of leavings. So, ideally, we'll get something like ~4.5 of each type per day. In reality, this equates to balancing out your creatures so you get 5 each of 4 types and 4 each of 5 types.

    What we don't know is if these special creatures drop the rare item at a higher rate. I suppose we'd need someone to have a pasture with all common animals and track what they get for a few weeks and maybe we could have that data point. I think it is a good assumption that special creatures can't have a worse drop rate. But the fact remains, there is nothing "rare" about swapping the rare leaving with the common leaving.
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  5. #55
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    You definitely got lucky. I managed to catch Twinklefleece on my first swing a few days ago. After fumbling the timers multiple times with my goobbue, I got that one today after I want to say 4-5 swings. That Grand Buffalo continues to elude me though, and I haven't even seen the gator yet myself. But I'll get them. It's all mostly RNG. Just gotta stay behind them.
    I managed to get to level 10 and 1st chance I got to try my hidden ninja trick, it worked again on my very 1st try! Either I got seriously lucky going 3 for 3, or there is something to it. I am done with the rare ones now. Huzzah!!!
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  6. #56
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antonio_Xul View Post
    I managed to get to level 10 and 1st chance I got to try my hidden ninja trick, it worked again on my very 1st try! Either I got seriously lucky going 3 for 3, or there is something to it. I am done with the rare ones now. Huzzah!!!
    Shooot, I'm about ready to try this. Can't hurt anything at least

    But yeah, that last goobbue fail took it out of me and I've not tried for half a week. lol. BUT I'M BACK, and loaded up on traps again. Will let ya know if I give the ninja a try.
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antonio_Xul View Post
    I managed to get to level 10 and 1st chance I got to try my hidden ninja trick, it worked again on my very 1st try! Either I got seriously lucky going 3 for 3, or there is something to it. I am done with the rare ones now. Huzzah!!!
    I've got nothing to lose by trying I guess. lol I'm guessing it's just some serious luck, but maybe I'll do that with the gator the next time it spawns just because. All I have left is the gator and paissa, but I can't access the paissa yet. Got my buffalo earlier. So many hours wasted spent on that one alone. As frustrating as this RNG is, it's nothing like spending 7+ years farming a mount in WoW like I did before it dropped. It lessens the impact a bit I guess. If I think RNG hates me in FF XIV, I just remember that ordeal, and suddenly it's not so bad!
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    Last edited by Vahlnir; 09-10-2022 at 09:40 AM.

  8. #58
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Ever since then I stopped all the sneaky act and just casually say "Hi can I kidnap you?" lol
    Which seems 9 times out of 10 to be exactly what they want.

    And that signature is hilarious. And as a 90 FSH makes me also want to cry.
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  9. #59
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    Quote Originally Posted by Antonio_Xul View Post
    I managed to get to level 10 and 1st chance I got to try my hidden ninja trick, it worked again on my very 1st try! Either I got seriously lucky going 3 for 3, or there is something to it. I am done with the rare ones now. Huzzah!!!
    Just tried this out on twinklefleece tonight and I was able to catch him on my third net. \o/ Weeeeee. ONE MORE RARE TO GO!!!....although it's the goobbue, and I'm pretty certain that thing exists solely to waste my traps. Will let ya know how I get on with the ninjar trick on that one in a day or two.
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  10. #60
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    Quote Originally Posted by Glenfiddich View Post
    That's what I do.
    I've read on the Forum that feeding the Animals isn't necessary. The give Loot anyway.
    If that's true I do not have to farm Food for them. Time saved.
    I'll take the Loot they are giving and slowly but surley I will get the Mount. Mission accomplished.
    Quote Originally Posted by Skivvy View Post
    I saw a post awhile back about an animal that was super angry and left the pasture. I've only seen that one post, and I can't find it again, so maybe someone else can chime in here on whether or not that's how it works. Also, I'm not positive if angry/unhappy will always give at least one item...I've not read up on that, so I'll fix my first post just to account for that unknown.
    I have tested it.
    No food for 3 days.
    They are very angry but still drop loot.
    No Animal ran away. Not even the rare ones.
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