Fight Designs & Class Balancement - Why everything is wrong and favors Melee Fantasy

[Jirah]

I’ve chosen to ignore this issue as it doesn’t effect me, as I don’t do savage nor care about meta or so-so is better than so-so because of a 1.52% difference in DPS. And apparently so has the devs. But people need to calm down and stop saying so-so is useless because someone told me so and now ima exile it away from my PF runs for Unreal or EX.

Compared to FF other issues I’m just not passionate or invested enough to care about a couple of trial fights

[CKNovel]

Well its safe to assume that every serious group will do so, as melees are superior right now.

I can say mine wasn't one of these groups.
Our NIN couldn't raid anymore and they had the tome weapon.

[rewd]

I’ve chosen to ignore this issue as it doesn’t effect me, as I don’t do savage nor care about meta or so-so is better than so-so because of a 1.52% difference in DPS. And apparently so has the devs. But people need to calm down and stop saying so-so is useless because someone told me so and now ima exile it away from my PF runs for Unreal or EX.

Compared to FF other issues I’m just not passionate or invested enough to care about a couple of trial fights

You care enough to come here, remind us that you apparently do not care and still tell people what they should and should not do.

[Jirah]

You care enough to come here, remind us that you apparently do not care and still tell people what they should and should not do.

I came here to comment, what else do you want from me. I’m sorry I’m not well versed in the balance issues as most here but it’s not consequential to me unless your doing maybe 1-2 savage trials

[Ziyaal]

Balancement? Balance or balancing.

[SaberMaxwell]

People definitely funnel tome weapon drops to melees.

Depends on when that group wants to clear. World race? Maybe. Week 1? No. Week 2? No. In that window you're banking on the early clear meaning the melee's tomes can go to pieces that will be their actual BiS, not a weapon they're just going to throw away.

Actually this is the first tier any of our dps bought any tome weapons in any serious manner.

[Rilifane]

I came here to comment, what else do you want from me. I’m sorry I’m not well versed in the balance issues as most here but it’s not consequential to me unless your doing maybe 1-2 savage trials

Then why care about what others care about so much that you have to tell them what they should care about or not?
If it's inconsequential and doesn't affect you, great. It does affect others.

[CKNovel]

Depends on when that group wants to clear. World race? Maybe. Week 1? No. Week 2? No. In that window you're banking on the early clear meaning the melee's tomes can go to pieces that will be their actual BiS, not a weapon they're just going to throw away.

Actually this is the first tier any of our dps bought any tome weapons in any serious manner.

Oh yes, we weren't aiming for W1 during the first savage tier.
So the weapon went to PLD, we still cleared W2.

Once again my group was the exception, this time it was an actual decision.

[Aikaal]

Don't think gear funneling will matter at all. Because once people starting getting BiS, you'll be sure the clear time won't be 8:20 for the second boss of P8S so Summoners will have to delay their Phoenix and they're gonna lose and get behind pretty much everybody because Summoner is just toxic like that. Of course unless Spell Speed BiS is actually the answer o3o

But even that, melee don't really care about those details so while Summoner is effectivement a braindead job, they are so toxic to optimize.

But that sorta goes exactly to what I'm saying. Car 2 the boss goes invlunerable because melees can't keep uptime so they designed the mechanic to not single out melee DPS. They didn't design the second boss to make it comfy on Summoner. Even that, there is no positional on the last boss. There is 0 downtime on melee. All the mechanics always resolve to the boss hitbox.

It is what it is. Melee deal superior damage by a large margin which they used to have that because they'd deal with downtime. They no longer deal with downtime but keep the DPS superiority. That's awfully similar to Ranged physical who lost a ton of damage from losing Piercing Debuff and they were never compensated

[FireMage]

I came here to comment, what else do you want from me. I’m sorry I’m not well versed in the balance issues as most here but it’s not consequential to me unless your doing maybe 1-2 savage trials

If you aren't knowledgeable on a subject, you shouldn't speak on it