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  1. #31
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    Supersnow845's Avatar
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    Andreas Cestelle
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    Jenova
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    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by KageTokage View Post
    It doesn't change the reality that the job balance is bad presently.
    Excuse me sweaty don’t you know insulting someone totally invalidates their arguments and the balance in this game is perfect /s
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  2. #32
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    Wyssahtyn's Avatar
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    Saika Kinoshita
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    Mateus
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    Rogue Lv 53
    Quote Originally Posted by LittleImp View Post


    This is an incredibly fun tier.

    I'm giving Square one more tier to get the balance situation straight, or I'll probably just stop raiding seriously in this game. It's important to me to be able to raid effectively on my favorite job. As it stands, parties are still locking it out in week 2. The situation is officially worse than p4s.
    must be heavensward again, lol
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  3. #33
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    Yxiah Eruyt
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    Balmung
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    Red Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Source

    TL : DR - Job balance is being hurt by 2 minute burst windows and leaves little room for optimization.
    I think the problem is when balance takes precedence over uniqueness. We get boring classes that play out the same!
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  4. #34
    Player Soge01's Avatar
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    Waira Amarilla
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    Faerie
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    Black Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lunalepsy View Post
    I think the problem is when balance takes precedence over uniqueness. We get boring classes that play out the same!
    Something the devs will unfortunately have to learn the hard way. Especially if PvP's version of all the Jobs maintain staying as excellent as they are.
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  5. #35
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    Lynne Asteria
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    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Soge01 View Post
    Something the devs will unfortunately have to learn the hard way. Especially if PvP's version of all the Jobs maintain staying as excellent as they are.
    But PvP jobs have almost no skills, and they all have their own heal.

    And people REALLY don't want jobs that simple in the normal game.
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  6. #36
    Player dapperfaffer's Avatar
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    Reis Tengille
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    Brynhildr
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    Dancer Lv 90
    who?
    I do not know who this person is, or why their opinion is to be entertained.
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  7. #37
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    Lil Imp
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    Goblin
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by dapperfaffer View Post
    who?
    I do not know who this person is
    High-end paladin player.

    Quote Originally Posted by dapperfaffer View Post
    or why their opinion is to be entertained.
    Because they're an extremely experienced player who has spent hundreds of hours playing the game at its highest level, and spend most of their time among other players pushing the game at that level. They have an intimate and highly informed perspective on the mechanics of the game.
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  8. #38
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    Tiana Vestoria
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    Odin
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lunalepsy View Post
    I think the problem is when balance takes precedence over uniqueness. We get boring classes that play out the same!
    Right now we got both anyway, bad balancing despite also having quite boring jobs. Everything being 2 minutes plays a part in both.
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  9. #39
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    Esther Harper
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    Zodiark
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    Scholar Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    People are complaining about tank dps being unbalanced and you think they want to take jobs where you have to work to align buffs to achieve the same dps as jobs who's buffs line up without any work?
    They complain because tank dps being fundamentally unbalanced is something unrelated to player skill and therefor completely out of their control. You can be the rank 1 PLD and a casual DRK will still eat you for breakfast without breaking a sweat.
    Aligning naturally misaligned buffs by factoring in fight time/ kill time and downtime, executing uptime strats, improving boss positioning and reducing forced boss turns on the other hand is 100% a player skill thing and thus within their control.
    You see the difference?

    Who are these mysterious people that played the game at a decent level and complained about misaligned buffs? Because that's something I heard rarely and it came from inexperienced players that always held their 90s for 2min windows because they didn't understand the numbers behind it.
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  10. #40
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    Meluwen Nobu
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    Lich
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Literally who?
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