desperate times calls for desperate measures ( classes balance )

[fulminating]

Jobs shouldn't be balanced around week-one clears of one fight in a new savage tier.

Thank you for coming to my TED Talk.

care to elaborate?

[Ransu]

care to elaborate?

It means if you clear the fight week 1, congrats you did good, but the fights are meant to be cleared at specific ilvls....its called progression. The numbers are balanced around potential output players will do when in max ilvl gear, not early tier gear they are wearing two weeks into the content that lasts several months.

Its why you see such a shift in numbers as the tier progresses over the weeks and people start getting their BiS. Its like this in literally every stat based game. Some jobs simply scale better than others with gear.

[Hussain]

It means if you clear the fight week 1, congrats you did good, but the fights are meant to be cleared at specific ilvls....its called progression. The numbers are balanced around potential output players will do when in max ilvl gear, not early tier gear they are wearing two weeks into the content that lasts several months.

Its why you see such a shift in numbers as the tier progresses over the weeks and people start getting their BiS. Its like this in literally every stat based game. Some jobs simply scale better than others with gear.

Everything you said goes against a certain comp lmao
if you jump into the final floor with specific classes you kill it EASILY , so your whole point is just wrong
but yeah keep defending this shit job balance dude , you don't look funny at all

[Shuuli]

It means if you clear the fight week 1, congrats you did good, but the fights are meant to be cleared at specific ilvls....its called progression. The numbers are balanced around potential output players will do when in max ilvl gear, not early tier gear they are wearing two weeks into the content that lasts several months.
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I thought the devs were famously stating you can clear any content with any comp.

Honestly, what you say goes against this. I have lot of friends who like to do actual challenges and do everything in MINE (Minimum ilevel no echo). And you SHOULD be able to clear with minimum ilevel with ANY comp...
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The specific ilevel to clear should be the ilevel requirement set for the content... in my opinion. (Isnt that 610 for this content?)

[Hussain]

I thought the devs were famously stating you can clear any content with any comp.

Honestly, what you say goes against this. I have lot of friends who like to do actual challenges and do everything in MINE (Minimum ilevel no echo). And you SHOULD be able to clear with minimum ilevel with ANY comp...

The specific ilevel to clear should be the ilevel requirement set for the content... in my opinion.

Exactly
this dude says you're not suppose to be able to clear week 1 cause gear progress...etc but then when you go with the right comp you just smash the final floor easily , which means really bad class balance. everyone knows this except that ransu dude

[T-Owl]

It means if you clear the fight week 1, congrats you did good, but the fights are meant to be cleared at specific ilvls....its called progression. The numbers are balanced around potential output players will do when in max ilvl gear, not early tier gear they are wearing two weeks into the content that lasts several months.

Its why you see such a shift in numbers as the tier progresses over the weeks and people start getting their BiS. Its like this in literally every stat based game. Some jobs simply scale better than others with gear.

The issue trickles down though. If Week 1 raiders, often the best of the best, have issues clearing the raid with certain comps, it will automatically affect players on lower skill levels who need higher level gear to clear as well, as certain comps will still perform worse than others.