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  1. #81
    Player Padudu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    More generally, as with many subjects in the forum, it all comes down to
    Enjoying Final Fantasy XIV for what it is.
    versus
    Hating Final Fantasy XIV for what it is not.
    The extreme saltiness of some forum posters, obvious from their repeated hyperbole and attacks on the devs, really makes you wonder why they are playing the game at all.
    Goes both ways tho, the SE defenders or whatever you'd like to call them goes into these threads, plug their ears in and go 'la-la-la' at the detractors. Each and every time there is something negative there will be people, sometimes the same ones, who will jump at the opportunity to tell the OP or whoever why they're selfish/attacking the devs/don't understand the resources they're asking SE to allocate.. ect ect ect ect. If you're going to just do that then why go to the negatively opinionated threads at all? You know for a fact you're not going to like the opinion and even if you don't know that and end up going "just another salt thread", then like.. why even bother? Same goes for the SE-haters.

    Also, you can like some aspects of XIV for what it is (personally, I love the music, fashion designs, housing items, maps, story, ect for example) and still acknowledge that the game has problems. It's not really that hard to conceptualize that people still play it because the game is a solid 8/10 in a lot of aspects and then you turn into a corner and hit the 5/10 features (Savage lockouts, squadrons, gold saucer, for example..)
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  2. #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    Also, just because you posted something doesn't make it true(doesn't make what they said true either, but we're not discussing that). You posted your opinion, drop this random gibberish about truths and lies.
    Interesting. You really don't care whether a statement is true or false? That does seem to be true:
    • If a statement serves your goals and your narrative, you support it or give it a pass, even if it is false and inflammatory.
    • If the statement doesn't, you want the person who made it to self-cancel, even if what they said was true and relevant.
    Your attitude is a lot of what's wrong with these forums, and the world today.

    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    why don't you spend some time with your husband and FC? Oh right, chances are they find you just as annoying as we do.
    And now you're just pulling shit out of your ass in an attempt to annoy me -- flaming.
    Shit that isn't even close to true, although you have no way of knowing that.
    That makes you the troll.
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    Last edited by Silverbane; 09-09-2022 at 02:33 AM.

  3. #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    It wasn't just luck. There's a reason I have leveled 12 alts to 2nd Lt. and L50 or better.

    And frankly, I don't consider having an FFXIV house anything to brag about, no more than having a pair of Keen Uneek sandals would be.
    I own Keen Uneek sandles, and as with owning a FFXIV house I get joy from doing so, but I don't think saying so is bragging. In fact, relating the joy I get from these silly shoes might lead to other people enjoying them too, so why not share the joy?

    Anyone who is "bragging" about an FFXIV house must have very few real accomplishments, I think.
    That's not the case for me, but listing my real-life accomplishments?
    Yeah, that would be bragging.

    And finally, humility is just another kind of lie. I have little use for lies.
    Gotta say, those shoes are ugly as sin.
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  4. #84
    Player Padudu's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    Gotta say, those shoes are ugly as sin.
    Keen sandals are the lulzy version of Chacos/Pipers/Olukai. Keen sandals are good for just about going on groomed trail walks, wouldn't backpack in them. Definitely wouldn't wear it as a fashion statement in any sense of the word. You'd be better off with NB shoes or trail runners for that/backpacking/rough trails.
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    I honestly can't quite imagine paying an actual rent with real money on a fake property in a video game. Want to take a few months off from the sub? bye bye house. Just insanity to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Silverbane View Post
    Interesting. You really don't care whether a statement is true or false? That does seem to be true:
    • If a statement serves your goals and your narrative, you support it or give it a pass, even if it is false and inflammatory.
    • If the statement doesn't, you want the person who made it to self-cancel, even if what they said was true and relevant.
    Your attitude is a lot of what's wrong with these forums, and the world today.


    And now you're just pulling shit out of your ass in an attempt to annoy me -- flaming.
    Shit that isn't even close to true, although you have no way of knowing that.
    That makes you the troll.
    Am I really attempting to annoy you? Oh yes, I did flame you.

    How do I know that isn't even close to true though? You were right, I have no way of knowing that. If we're being honest I have no way of knowing if you even have a husband. I imagine that he's just some figment of your imagination really.

    None of this is trolling though. I'm just pointing out your fantasies. What's the matter? Does my version of the "truth" hurt your feelings?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Imora View Post
    Gotta say, those shoes are ugly as sin.
    But sinfully comfortable and easy to slip on and off. My spouse and I both love them.
    And as Padudu says, not for rough country, but at least it's easy to shake small rocks that slip into them out.

    And while taste in RL fashion varies, just as tastes in FFXIV glams do, people often remark positively on them.
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  8. #88
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    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    Am I really attempting to annoy you? Oh yes, I did flame you.
    How do I know that isn't even close to true though? You were right, I have no way of knowing that.
    But as you already made clear, truth doesn't matter to you; to you, only serving your narrative matters.
    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    If we're being honest I have no way of knowing if you even have a husband.
    I have a spouse. Why you would think my spouse is my husband, I have no clue.
    Quote Originally Posted by NekoMataMata View Post
    I imagine that he's just some figment of your imagination really.
    None of this is trolling though. I'm just pointing out your fantasies. What's the matter? Does my version of the "truth" hurt your feelings?
    Not at all. Reading your posts makes me feel better about myself, because I'm not like you.

    But if you're not trolling, what are you doing? What exactly would you call trying to turn a thread about housing into a thread about attacking me, if not trolling?
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  9. #89
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    Its almost like FFXIV is a flawed game with good parts and bad parts and people can have opinions on each.

    in my opinion this game's quality ranged from a 4/10 to an 8/10 depending on what you're doing.
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    Odderan Gedesud
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    Trying to get a house is honestly pointless. Has been for years at this point. Even if you were to somehow get one, it isn't much more than a money sink and a subscription trap.
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