The Gendered Single Gear Issue

[CidHeiral]

Fashion is a game of personal taste and interest. Nothing should be denied to others just because a few people decide it only looks good on a certain body type and therefore no one with a different body type should be allowed to wear it.

Couldn't have said it better myself. ✔️

[TaleraRistain]

Fashion is a game of personal taste and interest. Nothing should be denied to others just because a few people decide it only looks good on a certain body type and therefore no one with a different body type should be allowed to wear it.

This. Let people have their bliss in what they wear and be comfortable. The Nier gear in this post is a great example because if you're a female and you don't feel like you rock a skirt, you're out of luck. Same if you're a male and you'd rock that skirt.

[Esmoire]

Aaaaaaaaaaahhh I really want some of the men's stuff. Neo-Ishgardian stuff for example is soooo handsome and I wish my butchy hyur could wear it like that, ha ha. Sad that the game won't let me.

And yes, I know she would rock it, like I knew the Mun'gaek set would look amazing on female characters.

[Krotoan]

This is why I hate the dresses on men. Not the fact that they're in dresses, but that they're ill fitting and genuinely bad especially on Roe/Hrothgar. They look like "okama" joke characters in One Piece. I've yet to see anything look bad on female models but I do recall the reason they never wanted to model the men was because it made them "uncomfortable."

This is I think one of the giant failings of the FFXIV texture and modeling team. They understand that people want dresses and traditionally feminine clothes on male characters.. but not that those people don't want it to look like those characters acquired the feminine versions and stuffed themselves into them. People want dresses that are FITTED to the male characters frames properly. There is a gigantic difference between stuffing a burly man into a dress and actually making a dress for a big burly man.

[Ayche]

Since all clothes are body models, they clearly do not want to double the workload by making twice as many by the pants/skirt choice.
It sucks, but thats the rocks.

[Cheremia]

Since all clothes are body models, they clearly do not want to double the workload by making twice as many by the pants/skirt choice.
It sucks, but thats the rocks.

They already double their workload by making gender differences, they still have to fit it to every different bodytype and the females are (mostly) closer together in bodytype than the male bodytypes

If they didn't want people to want the other genders set, which I do want in some cases, they wouldn't make it so extremely different sometimes...
That's their own fault for doing it :/
I want the male Valentines vest, some of the male Garo gear looks sick but alas...

[Rithy255]

I'd like it some masculine sets really do fit female characters quite well (Vise versa prolly), More options for characters are the better. I get pretty annoyed with a lot of the male locked glams (ones that share the same gear but look totally different) because I wanna use them.

Sure some might look "odd" to people but having the choice is always better then not having the choice, If someone wants to wear something when they can't its a big shame.

[Ayche]

They already double their workload by making gender differences, they still have to fit it to every different bodytype and the females are (mostly) closer together in bodytype than the male bodytypes

If they didn't want people to want the other genders set, which I do want in some cases, they wouldn't make it so extremely different sometimes...
That's their own fault for doing it :/
I want the male Valentines vest, some of the male Garo gear looks sick but alas...

Sure, but they could always do less. It is just escalating workload that is probably the problem. If you only made a piece of cloth on a race and a gender, that would be one model. Making two for two genders and 9 races (mid/highlander division as one)... thats 58 models. Maybe it is easy to copypaste the Roe wiremesh on the table and just make it hunch to create a Hrothgar, who knows, but I think it would be sad if we only got unisex designs as a compromise as an example.

[Cheremia]

Sure, but they could always do less. It is just escalating workload that is probably the problem. If you only made a piece of cloth on a race and a gender, that would be one model. Making two for two genders and 9 races (mid/highlander division as one)... thats 58 models. Maybe it is easy to copypaste the Roe wiremesh on the table and just make it hunch to create a Hrothgar, who knows, but I think it would be sad if we only got unisex designs as a compromise as an example.

It would be sad if we only get one unisex type, yeah

But we don't and they just lock the other thing forever by making it ONE item that changes appearance...
And I'm no expert but I think it's just fitting them to each bodytype and then some algorythm or something fits them to the heights of the characters and as said, the female skeletons seem to be pretty similar overall. I can't speak if they have to do 58 models or just half of it, or however it works...

I understand your reasoning, it is extra work, but it's still always sad to see... there's so many cool things I can't wear because, oop, my item is a frilly dress and not a snazzy vest/coat/mantle/whatever.

They make the work themself is just what i'm saying because they DO have one item that changes appearance and that's already extra modeling work, we just want the opposite gender, too (the GREEEEEEEED)

[PharisHanasaki]

Yes, please.

I was usually never bothered by this, until the past summer event. I am a female player, and no, us female don't always enjoy wearing really tiny pieces of fabric on our bottoms. I'd rather wear the "male" shorts, than every piece of lingirie we get during summer events.

The skirt we got one year was amazing, but then it was paired with a super small top that just looks odd on my lalafell. It looks great on big oppai tho, so I use it whenever I fantasia to a bigger races. Still not sold on the latest bikini bottom even so.