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  1. #11
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    SpiritTamer's Avatar
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    Lagi Honeyleaf
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    I agree. I like how in WoW, you can use all your mounts on any character you make once you get that mount. I think mounts you get from main story quests however should be unusable until you complete the quest that rewards the mount.
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  2. #12
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Notwithstanding that DC travel is only inside the region, I'm not sure how you are disadvantaged if someone with an alt gets the ability to unlock something over all characters.

    Your life, your game, and your "achievements" won't be lessened because someone can easier share a house between their roleplay characters, or doesn't need to do all the extremes on their new-regional-server character, or makes an alt in the EU to play with with their new German friend.

    I know this community loves to do it, but does this really need gatekeeping too?
    It doesn't need any gatekeeping at all as it simply won't happen. If this was your typical MMO with one job per character, then there could be an argument for them to do something like that. Given that nothing is ever shared outside of anything on the account level, I don't see them working to create any kind of link where this might be possible.

    There's clearly some money to be made on story skips and I'm sure that's more alts than mains. What's being proposed here would absolutely negate any need for that. They would be foolish to cut into that and the OP should just buy the story skip already. It's worth it.
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  3. #13
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    Rekun Elakha
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    It doesn't need any gatekeeping at all as it simply won't happen. If this was your typical MMO with one job per character, then there could be an argument for them to do something like that. Given that nothing is ever shared outside of anything on the account level, I don't see them working to create any kind of link where this might be possible.

    There's clearly some money to be made on story skips and I'm sure that's more alts than mains. What's being proposed here would absolutely negate any need for that. They would be foolish to cut into that and the OP should just buy the story skip already. It's worth it.
    I already own 8 alts at level 90, that's not what I'm asking, lol. Please read the whole post before you share your opinion, thaaaanks <3
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  4. #14
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    I'm not the illiterate one here.
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  5. #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    I'm not the illiterate one here.
    I would never imply that you were! Just that you didn't read the full post because if you did then you wouldn't be saying that account-wide mounts, PvP milestones, Island Sanctuary, minions, aether currents, orchestrion rolls, etc would make people not buy story skips c:

    In fact, if anything it should have the opposite effect. More people will want to buy story and level skips because most of you can't be bothered to level an alt the free way.
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    Last edited by Rekun; 09-02-2022 at 01:57 PM.

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    Jojoya Joya
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rekun View Post
    If Square Enix were to do this I think it would encourage people to make alts, thereby spending more time in the game leveling and gearing up said alts.
    This makes no sense. How does SE benefit by having players spend more time in the game considering it's a flat monthly fee to play?

    Not to mention most players are probably already spending as much time in the game as they have available to play. Making things account wide doesn't suddenly increase the length of a day from 24 to 28 hours.

    As an altoholic, I've never been in favor of things being account wide. If I want a reward on a character, I'll play the character to earn what I want.

    The only exceptions I could see would be some of the achievements that require hundreds of hours of grinding (like the hunt mounts). Even then, I'm fine with them being as they are.

    Quote Originally Posted by Rekun View Post
    In fact, if anything it should have the opposite effect. More people will want to buy story and level skips because most of you can't be bothered to level an alt the free way.
    What's the point of having all those alts if you aren't actively playing them? Extra storage space? Does a pack mule really need to have all the bling its owner has?
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  7. #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    This makes no sense. How does SE benefit by having players spend more time in the game considering it's a flat monthly fee to play?

    Not to mention most players are probably already spending as much time in the game as they have available to play. Making things account wide doesn't suddenly increase the length of a day from 24 to 28 hours.

    As an altoholic, I've never been in favor of things being account wide. If I want a reward on a character, I'll play the character to earn what I want.

    The only exceptions I could see would be some of the achievements that require hundreds of hours of grinding (like the hunt mounts). Even then, I'm fine with them being as they are.


    What's the point of having all those alts if you aren't actively playing them? Extra storage space? Does a pack mule really need to have all the bling its owner has?
    So if people owned more alts they'd be more likely to spend in the Mogstation, plus it'd keep them subbed for longer if they were interested in keeping their alts up to date for glamour purposes.

    I actually roleplay on my alts, farm glamours and other jobs, decorate the spaces I own, send out retainers for extra chances at white and black dyes, PvP, and gpose. There are a lot of things you can do with your alts!

    And the answer is, yes, yes they do!
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  8. #18
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    Larirawiel Caennalys
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    Shiva
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    Quote Originally Posted by MontecristoSandwich View Post
    Gonna have to disagree with ya there, chief. This game is "alt-unfriendly" because outside of extremely niche scenarios you have virtually no reason to make an alt.
    If you want to play on different physical datacenters then you need alts. And this is not a niche scenario, IMHO.



    Cheers
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  9. #19
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    Frederica Bernkastel
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    The concept of having more than one character scares the achievement hunter and raider.
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  10. #20
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    Deveryn Ev'liarsh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rekun View Post
    I would never imply that you were! Just that you didn't read the full post because if you did then you wouldn't be saying that account-wide mounts, PvP milestones, Island Sanctuary, minions, aether currents, orchestrion rolls, etc would make people not buy story skips c:

    In fact, if anything it should have the opposite effect. More people will want to buy story and level skips because most of you can't be bothered to level an alt the free way.
    I read the post. I read what followed.

    Some of the things you mention are actually tied to story skip, like aether currents and (eventually) Island Sanctuary. There's story progress in the achievements as well as duty unlocks. The rest is just not at all essential.

    People can and will do what they like, but I don't think people should be encouraged to make alts. They take up valuable space. On the NA servers, we already have struggles with the population. Balmung was recently flagged as congested and no new characters can be created. At the end of the day, the game just isn't designed with alts in mind, but the one character that can do it all. Even if they could potentially do any of this sharing business, they probably won't.
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