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    Rewards should be account wide.

    Please devs if you're reading this make all rewards (achievement, island sanctuary, mounts, minions, PVP milestones, aether currents, orchestrion rolls, sightseeing logs, etc) account wide.

    Full disclosure I'm not asking for anything that gives players an edge over other players, examples being tomestones, gear, or job levels. I think all of those things should be earned.

    This game isn't the least bit alt-friendly. Having to level up 8 islands for my 8 alts just so they can have the glamour at the end of the grind is so time consuming and a chore.

    If Square Enix were to do this I think it would encourage people to make alts, thereby spending more time in the game leveling and gearing up said alts.

    However, good caveat would be that most of these things should be locked behind story progression. Island Sanctuary gear shouldn't be able to be worn until you reach the appropriate level and point in the story where Island Sanctuary would normally unlock.
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    It would cut into mogstation profits by making everything account-wide. They literally make money off us buying multiple of glams, emotes and boosts for alts.

    Do I think they should? Yeah. I like games like SWTOR and GW2 that have features like that.

    Will they? Probably not without giving the cash store a face lift in some form.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LianaThorne View Post
    It would cut into mogstation profits by making everything account-wide. They literally make money off us buying multiple of glams, emotes and boosts for alts.
    Oh, no. I forgot to mention I think mogstation sales shouldn't be account-wide lol.

    I just don't want to grind island again (I will)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rekun View Post
    Oh, no. I forgot to mention I think mogstation sales shouldn't be account-wide lol.
    That's more work than necessary for them then to create two separate systems unless the one for mog mounts can be expanded on or replicated easily.
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    Gonna have to disagree with ya there, chief. This game is "alt-unfriendly" because outside of extremely niche scenarios you have virtually no reason to make an alt. Even fewer now that DC Travel is a thing. Every job is usable on a single character, (mostly) every storyline is replayable with NG+, currencies can be spent on all different kinds of things depending on whatever you want to allocate them to (Astronomies for instance, being spend-able on gearing, crafting, etc...)

    Like, what's the reason for having 8 alts? It sounds like willful self-torture that 99.9% of players simply don't need to deal with. Why redesign the entire reward system around what is effectively a player/self-imposed issue?
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    I agree with your point of view, mostly. It's just this one thing:

    Quote Originally Posted by MontecristoSandwich View Post
    Like, what's the reason for having 8 alts? It sounds like willful self-torture that 99.9% of players simply don't need to deal with.
    Because some of us like leveling alts. Leveling, questing, things like the "MSQ", etc., are the core of gameplay for some. Much more than 0.1%, I can assure you.

    When I played WoW, I did fifty toons because that's the max the game allows (allowed?) account-wide. I'd level one, then level the next, etc. Barely touched endgame, and used the various alts to get multiple runs on things that were locked to 1x per week. I liked leveling toons so much that I'd level 'em and when they hit max I'd just liquidate everything they had accumulated, send the items to a new alt, and delete the one I leveled. I loved leveling toons, and I cannot possibly be the only one. I ran a guild there that had hundreds of folks in it, many of them active daily, and all some of us ever did is level toons and have dozens of alts.

    I've already created eight toons here in FF, have played two of them... will eventually play all eight or more. I'd love to have them all fleshed out with all jobs leveled, all professions leveled on each. This doesn't have anything to do with "needing" alts at all. I have them and do this because I want to. The "have one toon that does it all," thing is great, sure. But I like to play different characters that have unique looks, styles, and personalities... and I am not down with buying a Fantasia every time I'd like to play a "different" character. It's nice to just log out, log in and have a completely different toon in your control.

    But, I digress.

    I agree with what you've said and I don't want FF to change, personally, even though I am an alt-o-holic. This game is uniquely this game and I don't see the need for every reward to be account wide like some other games do it. If I want rewards on multiple toons I will earn them (or buy them, or whatever).

    I just wanted to defend the point of view that not everyone sees leveling as some chore to go through before getting to the "real game," or whatever. For some, leveling up toons is the "real game." And I seriously doubt it's only a tenth-of-a-percent of us that play this way.
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    Last edited by Breakbeat; 09-02-2022 at 06:16 AM. Reason: Expand on my point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MontecristoSandwich View Post
    Like, what's the reason for having 8 alts? It sounds like willful self-torture that 99.9% of players simply don't need to deal with. Why redesign the entire reward system around what is effectively a player/self-imposed issue?
    16 free retainers that bring you mats you can only get by having your retainers bring them to you, having multiple characters with their own distinct looks and glamour plates to them, extra private rooms within FC houses, extra apartments, extra bids on private and free company plots thereby increasing your chances at owning your own house, increased company seal revenue, if you own your own fc you can freely transfer gil and items between alts and your main thereby consolidating your earnings on your alts.

    Overall, there are a lot of reasons for making 8 alts. Granted with the current system alting is only for people that are seriously into this game and I don't really blame Squeenix or anyone for that. To each their own, but it would benefit everyone if making alts was a more friendly process.

    If anything, it's a player issue that you don't make alts, considering how unfriendly the housing system is in this game and how you have to pay extra money for extra retainers if you want more shots at getting those expensive dyes without paying a pretty penny.

    EDIT: Before anyone says just move from Balmung if Housing is such a big deal to you. I already own two houses, a shell FC with a fully functioning workshop and 16 personal rooms/apartments. I'm not going to move lol.
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    Last edited by Rekun; 09-02-2022 at 12:37 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MontecristoSandwich View Post
    This game is "alt-unfriendly" because outside of extremely niche scenarios you have virtually no reason to make an alt. Even fewer now that DC Travel is a thing...
    Notwithstanding that DC travel is only inside the region, I'm not sure how you are disadvantaged if someone with an alt gets the ability to unlock something over all characters.

    Your life, your game, and your "achievements" won't be lessened because someone can easier share a house between their roleplay characters, or doesn't need to do all the extremes on their new-regional-server character, or makes an alt in the EU to play with with their new German friend.

    I know this community loves to do it, but does this really need gatekeeping too?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shibi View Post
    Notwithstanding that DC travel is only inside the region, I'm not sure how you are disadvantaged if someone with an alt gets the ability to unlock something over all characters.

    Your life, your game, and your "achievements" won't be lessened because someone can easier share a house between their roleplay characters, or doesn't need to do all the extremes on their new-regional-server character, or makes an alt in the EU to play with with their new German friend.

    I know this community loves to do it, but does this really need gatekeeping too?
    It doesn't need any gatekeeping at all as it simply won't happen. If this was your typical MMO with one job per character, then there could be an argument for them to do something like that. Given that nothing is ever shared outside of anything on the account level, I don't see them working to create any kind of link where this might be possible.

    There's clearly some money to be made on story skips and I'm sure that's more alts than mains. What's being proposed here would absolutely negate any need for that. They would be foolish to cut into that and the OP should just buy the story skip already. It's worth it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    It doesn't need any gatekeeping at all as it simply won't happen. If this was your typical MMO with one job per character, then there could be an argument for them to do something like that. Given that nothing is ever shared outside of anything on the account level, I don't see them working to create any kind of link where this might be possible.

    There's clearly some money to be made on story skips and I'm sure that's more alts than mains. What's being proposed here would absolutely negate any need for that. They would be foolish to cut into that and the OP should just buy the story skip already. It's worth it.
    I already own 8 alts at level 90, that's not what I'm asking, lol. Please read the whole post before you share your opinion, thaaaanks <3
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