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    Quote Originally Posted by Pip_Chick View Post
    And the only way we can show it is by saying it. Cause I have looked and read through this and other threads, Twitter, Facebook, Art communities, etc. and the people who want them to be like this are in the majority, with the people that want them to be like every other female in this game (Excluding Fem Roe cause they seem to have a hate boner for them) for the sake of popularity, which is a non-issue, they will never be as popular as Miquo'te, Au'ra and Viera, cause they are a niche beast race! And completely missing the point, these people don't even entertain the idea of changing to them, or at most say that they will try them on an alt, but when confronted by people who want to be them presenting what they want to play as (since this is their last chance). They choose to drown them and call them the vocal minority without realising that they are the vocal minority! I want female Hrothgar to be beastly cause that is what makes sense, that would give visual coherence and the thought of them having flat faces puts me off, I don't want to play as a taller Miquo'te, nor do I want to play as a Furry roe, I want female Hrothgar to be a beast warrior woman!
    Popularity is mostly about execution of design, not concept. You could easily make Female draggos far less popular by making design choices that aren't appealing, even if you keep them small.
    Not trying to make the most popular thing is one thing, using that as an excuse to make something utterly unpopular for a game is another.
    As for online people discussing this topic, I don't think there's much to say. Many don't care about them because they want to play them, they simply didn't like the gender-limits on races. Most assume they will look like fur covered Femroe or like the outdated 20 year old models in the FF game that had female Ronso. To put it simply, most people assumed they would be something they have no interest in using, which is why the hype has been the complete opposite of Viera Males.
    The devs, however, don't have the luxury of thinking that way. They don't have to try to make everything "the next Miqote!" popularity wise, but they only have a finite amount of time and resources that they can throw at things and have to try to make them appealing to some decent amount of people. IMO the "Beast" features for Hrothgar are the "Horns and Scales" of Draggos and the "Tall and beefy" of Roe. It's the actual thing that defines them. So no, I don't think they will be full human looking ... but just like how Femroe aren't nearly as big-n-beefy as Roebros, I don't think they're gonna be AS beast presenting as the males. And just like Draggos I don't think their stature is gonna be much of a factor in visually connecting them either.

    IMO, they will be the "Most Animal looking women" in the game ... to what extent that makes them look like the males or HOW that's represented is a complete question mark to me beyond what they have shown. Hell, I could see them deciding to make them look like furrier Mithra/ Miqote head-wise so that they can use all headgear and hair ... only to turn around and give them digitigrade feet and limit their footwear to stuff that's got a high heel because someone on the team presented YP with a concept that impressed him, just like someone on the team got them more interested in the idea of Jpop idols for Draggo girls.

    W/e they end up as, I'm sure it's gonna be more animal looking than any other female. That's all that really matters to me, personally. I don't need them to have the same body shape or the same levels of animal features or the same representations of those features. At the end of the day, it's their game. It's not their job to smash perceived gender norms in games, nor to satisfy some subjective levels of acceptable sexual dimorphism.
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    Last edited by reivaxe; 09-02-2022 at 05:09 AM.