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    Quote Originally Posted by WellGramarye View Post
    If she did not sunder herself, then there are no Warriors of Light possible on the reflections.
    Why? We know from Minfilia and Elidibus' actions on the First and the events of Endwalker that Hydaelyn can reach across to other shards from the Source.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veloran View Post
    Why? We know from Minfilia and Elidibus' actions on the First and the events of Endwalker that Hydaelyn can reach across to other shards from the Source.
    Yes because she exists there as well. Quite easy to manipulate things on other shards, if you are already there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WellGramarye View Post
    Yes because she exists there as well. Quite easy to manipulate things on other shards, if you are already there.
    In at least the cases of Minfilia and Endwalker, it was explicitly Hydaelyn from the Source acting, not some hidden Hydaelyn on the First.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WellGramarye View Post
    By sundering herself, she is thus on all 14 versions to watch over him, but she only needs to bind him on the source.
    If she did not sunder herself, then there are no Warriors of Light possible on the reflections.
    As I wrote in my previous post, it seems that she sits in the centre of all the worlds, able to reach into any one of them and communicate with her chosen Warriors of Light in each one.

    Independent Hydaelyns on each world would be narratively weird and the concept has never been raised, even when we were in the First.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    As I wrote in my previous post, it seems that she sits in the centre of all the worlds, able to reach into any one of them and communicate with her chosen Warriors of Light in each one.

    Independent Hydaelyns on each world would be narratively weird and the concept has never been raised, even when we were in the First.
    This is assuming that each one is mentally different and not just a part of the greater whole, like Zodiark is. There is only one Zodiark, his parts just diminish his power. Each part does not have a will of its own. The same would hold true for Hydaelyn.


    I'm going to add this and its not aimed at you directly Iscah in particular.

    "But the dialogue is wrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrroooooooong"

    It can only be considered a mistake if it contradicts every other language, of the same line across all versions of the game. Otherwise you have to take it at face value as information that is adding to the story and narrative, else I can just go and say any line in the entirety of the game is just as wrong, and you see where that starts to lead us. As it stands, the line is there, and does make narrative sense. While the concept has never been raised before, remember there were dozens of concepts raised in each expansion that weren't raised before. That's the point of expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WellGramarye View Post
    It can only be considered a mistake if it contradicts every other language
    No, it can be a mistake if it says something the writer didn't intend and isn't actually accurate to the lore.

    I've been meaning to post it in the localisation forum and see what they make of it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    No, it can be a mistake if it says something the writer didn't intend and isn't actually accurate to the lore.

    I've been meaning to post it in the localisation forum and see what they make of it.
    None of work for SE nor are we are on the writing team despite how some visitors of this forum act. We can't confirm what they intend unless they outright say so or the line differs between versions.
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