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    Male healers aren't exactly all that revolutionary. Hope in FFXIII, Anders in Dragon Age, etc. I don't consider that something so unique to as be worthy of praise based off that alone. I dislike how the story handled Alphinaud and the unceremonious way in which he upgraded to a Sage. Seeing him be given his AF set by his mom wasn't compelling. It only solidified the image of him as a spoiled noble kid.

    In any case no one here stands to lose from adding some masculine men to the cast that are a step above the guys we've already gone on adventures with. If I had to tolerate the likes of Alphinaud and G'raha Tia then I'm sure that those who are opposed to such men joining the cast will just have to exercise the same patience that I had to.
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  2. #122
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Male healers aren't exactly all that revolutionary. Hope in FFXIII, Anders in Dragon Age, etc. I don't consider that something so unique to as be worthy of praise based off that alone. I dislike how the story handled Alphinaud and the unceremonious way in which he upgraded to a Sage. Seeing him be given his AF set by his mom wasn't compelling. It only solidified the image of him as a spoiled noble kid.

    In any case no one here stands to lose from adding some masculine men to the cast that are a step above the guys we've already gone on adventures with. If I had to tolerate the likes of Alphinaud and G'raha Tia then I'm sure that those who are opposed to such men joining the cast will just have to exercise the same patience that I had to.
    Also technically the series first white mage character was Minwu from FFII and he was a guy. So yeah the idea isn't revolutionary at allm
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  3. #123
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    Quote Originally Posted by Atelier-Bagur View Post
    Also technically the series first white mage character was Minwu from FFII and he was a guy. So yeah the idea isn't revolutionary at allm
    Minwu is probably the best male healer the series ever got. Not many pure healers of his archetype.
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  5. #124
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Well, if we are invalidating peoples opinions because the play female Au Ra....
    I'm not invalidating your opinion, what'd you mean? ;3 I just consider yours less relevant than mine, as you no doubt do the same to me. It's kinda what makes them opinions, no?

    Honestly, the FemRa part was mostly a (lame) joke. Regardless, unlike certain other FemRas I don't go around speaking of my overwhelming masculinity and what constitutes it as such. Frankly, I admittedly don't like FemRas for the most part. We're pretty terrible, and deserve most if not all of our criticisms.... ;3

    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteWitch View Post
    I was mega confused at why hydaelyns crystal purified zero. Or was it azems crystal ? Idk, I half pay attention anymore. Hydaelyn and the ancients are gone so why can the power of light keep purifying things ?
    Just do your best to ignore it and focus on the parts of the game that yet make you happy, friend. Like many things 6.0 and beyond, it doesn't make nearly as much sense as the devs insist it does.

    Quote Originally Posted by MagiusNecros View Post
    Yeah they pulled out of nowhere as a macguffin that will make sense at a later date. The story feels more like Kingdom Hearts right now.
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    Last edited by SentioftheHoukai; 08-30-2022 at 03:24 AM. Reason: Had my coffee, day is still shit.

  6. #125
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteWitch View Post
    I was mega confused at why hydaelyns crystal purified zero. Or was it azems crystal ? Idk, I half pay attention anymore. Hydaelyn and the ancients are gone so why can the power of light keep purifying things ?
    I mean, if you're not really paying attention, being confused kinda makes sense...basically, "light" and "darkness" in FFXIV are essentially just other elements such as Fire, Wind, Earth, Water. Hydaelyn is aspected toward light, but she's not the "source" of all light in the universe. The "light" in her crystal doesn't rely on her existence in order to retain its power. Once the crystal gets imbued with light, it has that light no matter what. The crystal reacted with the "darkness" in Zero and dissipated it.
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    Player MagiusNecros's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteWitch View Post
    I was mega confused at why hydaelyns crystal purified zero. Or was it azems crystal ? Idk, I half pay attention anymore. Hydaelyn and the ancients are gone so why can the power of light keep purifying things ?
    Yeah they pulled out of nowhere as a macguffin that will make sense at a later date. The story feels more like Kingdom Hearts right now.
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  8. #127
    Player SentioftheHoukai's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    Male healers aren't exactly all that revolutionary. Hope in FFXIII, Anders in Dragon Age, etc. I don't consider that something so unique to as be worthy of praise based off that alone. I dislike how the story handled Alphinaud and the unceremonious way in which he upgraded to a Sage. Seeing him be given his AF set by his mom wasn't compelling. It only solidified the image of him as a spoiled noble kid.

    In any case no one here stands to lose from adding some masculine men to the cast that are a step above the guys we've already gone on adventures with. If I had to tolerate the likes of Alphinaud and G'raha Tia then I'm sure that those who are opposed to such men joining the cast will just have to exercise the same patience that I had to.
    To be fair, ever since they changed it WE get our Artifact Gear "handed to us" as well. Not saying that this is a good thing, but still....

    Ah, I remember the days when you had to EARN the best gear for your class in an MMO. What halcyon days they were, full of kicking, and screaming and Barrens chatting. Still better than this method, though I fully entice anyone with misgivings to come forward. I accept all comers. ;3
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  9. #128
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell View Post
    Just imagining a scene where he and WoL just grunt, nod, and punch their own palms while the rest of the scions watch in pure confusion.
    well, WoL IS a bit of a himbo.
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  10. #129
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    Quote Originally Posted by SentioftheHoukai View Post
    To be fair, ever since they changed it WE get our Artifact Gear "handed to us" as well. Not saying that this is a good thing, but still....

    Ah, I remember the days when you had to EARN the best gear for your class in an MMO. What halcyon days they were, full of kicking, and screaming and Barrens chatting. Still better than this method, though I fully entice anyone with misgivings to come forward. I accept all comers. ;3

    You're not wrong though. In most games power upgrades whether for mmorpg characters or fixed protagonists in single-player games come after some kind of growth/struggle. Them being handed to the character so effortlessly like in Alphinaud's case is certainly unique, but not in a way that is in the game's best interest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    You're not wrong though. In most games power upgrades whether for mmorpg characters or fixed protagonists in single-player games come after some kind of growth/struggle. Them being handed to the character so effortlessly like in Alphinaud's case is certainly unique, but not in a way that is in the game's best interest.
    So none of what alphi went through over the last 8 years counts as growth/struggles?

    It had to be something immediately prior to the receiving of his new power?

    Odd take, but expected lol.
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