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    I liked HW split route with the trials, hate that the trail are now MSQ required again like in ARR. Means less story and for all that it’s worth the MSQ main story feels like a side story. Still interesting but the side stories usually end things off without any lingering threads. When MSQ do it, then it makes me worried as to where in the hell is the story going?
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    I'd prefer to get a separate trial series questline instead of whatever that Tataru questline is supposed to be.

    Later on I just hope that Maehiro comes back as soon as possible and makes 7.0 everything that Endwalker wasn't.
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    I'd prefer to get a separate trial series questline instead of whatever that Tataru questline is supposed to be.
    We did.

    Abyssos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GeckoMain View Post
    Agree on the azem crystal comment too- I hate how the very msq has become super solo now, we dont even team up with other real adventurers anymore really we just summon some with our magical crystal- it's unimaginitive and the plots reaching a point where all the main characters feel unkillable and this just adds to it further.
    Azem's power apparently is the ability to summon real people to their aid. It just means that we've moved on from our party of adventuring friends to be on a convenient fishing trip nearby, and now canonically pull them the edge of the universe to help us.

    Personally I'm not keen on it, but in the opposite direction, because it never really made sense that we were bringing random people into the battle and then never seeing them again. It was easier to ignore them and run on the assumption that the WoL is really just fighting solo, but that's slightly harder now that they're being summoned on-screen.

    The only times we've canonically had "phantom allies" has been the Exarch's summoning them for the Dying Gasp, and Themis's creations for us in Pandæmonium. (And I suppose also in Omega.)


    Quote Originally Posted by VelKallor View Post
    We did [get a trial questline].

    Abyssos.
    Pandæmonium is a raid questline, not trials. We've had the two things as distinct sidequest chains up until now: Hard Primals/Hildibrand vs Coil, Triad vs Alexander, Four Lords vs Omega, Werlyt vs Eden.

    That said, I'm fine with the trials being in the MSQ if that's what serves the story best. Better than them having to come up with an additional story just for the sake of having it, rather than because they want to tell it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aveyond-dreams View Post
    The following is a review and my thoughts of the MSQ for 6.2, and as such will be contained within the following spoiler tags:


    The quest that went more into the backstories of the fiends was good, but I would’ve liked to have learned their back stories before we started going after them.

    This was a definite sticking point for me. Getting that completely backwards was a huge misstep.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kes13a View Post
    hopefully you manage to find a game you like and enjoy. (I mean this)

    because a majority of what you post clearly indicates you do not like or enjoy anything about this one. good luck ^^
    Or maybe they are simply agitated at the ball being seriously dropped for the current story direction.
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    Last edited by Darthgummibear; 08-28-2022 at 12:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darthgummibear View Post

    Or maybe they are simply agitated at the ball being seriously dropped for the current story direction.
    I have little problem with them expressing their opinion, but not everyone shares it, so was the ball dropped for everyone? no. I enjoyed Endwalker, were there problems, yes, but I still enjoyed it.

    the OP enjoys... virtually nothing about it or the game. they have posted countless criticisms of their experience which I cannot identify with. so it truly is my hope that they are able to find something they ACTUALLY ENJOY, because thats better for their health and mental well being. I learned early in life if you dont enjoy the game or the rules... dont play the game.

    not saying they are not entitled to their opinions or likes and wants, but as with most things and feelings of that nature, they are not shared by everyone. they do not like the game. that is evident. so if they can find one they do, they will be a lot happier in life. life is too short to waste time being upset at things you cannot change.... such as how a game story is written, produced, released etc...
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    Last edited by Kes13a; 08-29-2022 at 12:50 AM.

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    It is a common sentiment that the scions feel too homogenized in their way of thinking and this makes for interactions that are rather predictable, aside from Zero.
    And yet again. [ Citation and proof needed ]

    WHO other than you says this? No one that I know of.

    though it doesn’t do enough to solve the other issues our party has
    ..which are...?

    The story would arguably be better off with it being shattered
    ....How? Why? To what end?

    and reprise the role of dashing rogue that Thancred left vacant
    Thancred isnt going anywhere, members of the Scions arent being retired either.
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    Last edited by VelKallor; 08-28-2022 at 02:14 PM.

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    The story is ok. After years of build up, the main story after 6.0 feel small or not as exciting. Nothing that grabs my attention thinking what’s going to happen next. When you come from time travel, space travel and start over right away its a bit of a let down.

    I dislike the elephant people and Radz-at-Han. I’m not a fan of that whole culture they have going.

    The arch fiends really annoy me when they speak. So proud in their own strength yet they will all die. I dislike their personality. Can there be a wise villain or monster who doesn’t talk smack and counts on his fellow arch fiends?

    The location for the 13th is nice to explore and it was cool seeing the monster talk to us. So far I’m not looking forward to the story until something grabs my attention.
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    Can there be a wise villain or monster who doesn’t talk smack and counts on his fellow arch fiends?
    They forgot rule 30 of being an evil overlord:

    30. I will maintain a realistic assessment of my strengths and weaknesses. Even though this takes some of the fun out of the job, at least I will never utter the line "No, this cannot be! I AM INVINCIBLE!!!" (After that, death is usually instantaneous.)
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    Kokoro Liliro
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    I liked being able to talk to the Voidsent in Zero's domain. Wish there was more. Would also be cool if there were different layers of the Void to explore rather than it being one homogenous, samey place.

    The idea of Archfiends warring against each other was cool, but sadly underutilized. Seems like it's just going to be our heroes vs Golbez. Could be cool if there was something like One Piece where you have impromptu alliances. Maybe our heroes could have work with (or lured) an Archfiend and their demon army against Golbez.

    I like that Zero is a self-interested actor rather than just nodding along with the hero hivemind. Maybe Golbez promises Zero lots of power so she betrays the party for real and joins him and becomes an antagonist for a while. Or she eats Azdaja and enrages Vytra. She has already been established as being pretty powerful so she would be a credible threat.
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