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    Quote Originally Posted by Ranaku View Post
    But isn't that what MMOs are about? Giving you something to do? Would be rather boring if you just create a character, press a button and then have everything in the entire game forever and that's it. Cause that is what most people here cry for it seems.

    Island Sanctuary is basically playing itself for all the players who want it slow and calm, you can plan literally two weeks of production ahead and then just ignore it and reap the rewards after your sweatshop mammets are done. How much more lazy should it get?
    You don't give me more to do by funelling and stretching what could be done in a day, over weeks or months by timegating my progress. My sub keeps ticking away while i'm waiting for weekly resets. I'd much rather do it all and then move on to another game. Like with every other game. Waiting is not content.
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    Last edited by GoatOfWar; 08-27-2022 at 02:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoatOfWar View Post
    Waiting is not content.
    It is though. So many mobile games have been making money off this kind of thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    It is though. So many mobile games have been making money off this kind of thing.
    ... because they charge real money to reduce the waiting and the deliberate obnoxious design
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cach View Post
    ... because they charge real money to reduce the waiting and the deliberate obnoxious design
    This. Mobile games make you wait 12 hours or more for anything to do on purpose to get you to pay money, they aren't designed to provide a great gameplay experience but to wring every last penny out of you if possible.

    I already consider this design obnoxious at best for a game on your phone that doesn't cost you anything if you're stubborn enough. Adding it to a game with a monthly subscription certainly doesn't magically make it not terrible.

    If you consider waiting around to be content because "mobile games do it and they make a lot of money" then I must seriously wonder if we slipped into the clown universe at some point.

    You know what other game has a bunch of this content design? You know, that game in the same genre everyone likes to complain about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Absurdity View Post
    This. Mobile games make you wait 12 hours or more for anything to do on purpose to get you to pay money, they aren't designed to provide a great gameplay experience but to wring every last penny out of you if possible.

    I already consider this design obnoxious at best for a game on your phone that doesn't cost you anything if you're stubborn enough. Adding it to a game with a monthly subscription certainly doesn't magically make it not terrible.

    If you consider waiting around to be content because "mobile games do it and they make a lot of money" then I must seriously wonder if we slipped into the clown universe at some point.

    You know what other game has a bunch of this content design? You know, that game in the same genre everyone likes to complain about?
    Your problem is that you're approaching Island Sanctuary as if it's the only content in the game and is supposed to be occupying all of your time.

    It's not. It's just another ride in the MMO theme park that you can choose to do.

    You don't need to be waiting around doing nothing while waiting on the workshop, pastures, etc. Play the rest of the game as you have done in the past. Use this to fill in the spare moments you have between doing that other content instead of making the island your entire day.

    Want to know what makes this very different from that other game you're referring to? It's completely optional. You don't have to do it. You don't miss out on power progression by skipping it. A raid static isn't going to drop you from the group because you decide you're not going to do Island Sanctuary.

    This seems to be a good time to repeat something I have a habit of saying in a lot of forum discussions:

    Be a smart consumer. Don't engage with content you do not enjoy. Virtual rewards are not worth wasting your time on content that annoys you instead of entertains you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    Be a smart consumer. Don't engage with content you do not enjoy. Virtual rewards are not worth wasting your time on content that annoys you instead of entertains you.
    This isn't even a question of forcing yourself to do content you don't enjoy, the game doesn't let you do anything with the island besides click through a bunch of menus for 15 minutes once a day.
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    Last edited by Absurdity; 08-27-2022 at 10:34 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deveryn View Post
    It is though. So many mobile games have been making money off this kind of thing.
    Alas, i don't play those games.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoatOfWar View Post
    Waiting is not content.
    Basically this. Who was asking for this sort of thing to be added to FFXIV in the first place? Even among the people who wanted some kind of farming content? I imagine that those sort of games provide more activities and active things to do compared to the current state of Island Sanctuary. The bottom line is that resources were allocated to this when they could have gone towards more highly requested features.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoatOfWar View Post
    You don't give me more to do by funelling and stretching what could be done in a day, over weeks or months by timegating my progress. My sub keeps ticking away while i'm waiting for weekly resets. I'd much rather do it all and then move on to another game. Like with every other game. Waiting is not content.
    so play other games while you wait?
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    Quote Originally Posted by hagare View Post
    so play other games while you wait?
    Surely you see the problem here?
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